[Libreoffice-qa] Automatic Formatting _Underline_ /Italics/ *Bold* -Strikethrough-

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu May 14 05:27:58 UTC 2020

As QA people use to say: "Bugzilla, or it didn't happen". So here we go https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133023

On 02.05.20 12:54, Marc Paré wrote:
> Thanks for pointing me to bug-59754 for which I am more concerned about.
> I would like to see this discussed on merit.
> If we are serious about making LibreOffice accessible to more users,
> then we should have predictable returns on typing text in documents.
> This will make LibreOffice more of a reliable suite and lead to less
> confusion and frustration by users. Using the argument that this will be
> an occasion for users to expand their knowledge is the wrong approach;
> the end result of this default setting is to only frustrate users for no
> reason at all. LibreOffice then has to take a hit on the bad reputation
> side for having set as default an added feature that it calls
> auto-correction.
> This should be discussed as it is, at best, bad marketing of the product
> when it creates frustration for no reason at all. Making settings return
> predictable results will make the suite more of a valuable tool to a
> larger expanding group of users and avoid comments of frustration on
> such obvious mistake at setting a reasonable default.
> Marc
> Le 20-05-02 à 02 h 14, Heiko Tietze a écrit :
>> You are not alone. But the idea was rejected in the past.
>> Disable autocompletion/autocorrect by default
>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59754
>> AutoCorrect need alternative for handling use of keyboard input of apostrophe as apostrophe (rather than single quote) 
>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127883
>> (and other)
>> On 02.05.20 03:56, Marc Paré wrote:
>>> Someone on a list other than LibreOffice pointed out that the initial
>>> settings in AutoCorrect are set with the following formatting
>>> feature-default of, when you type:
>>> _CausesTextToBeUnderlined_  /CausesTextToBeItalicized/  
>>> *CausesTextToBeBold  -CausesTextToBeStruckThrough-
>>> As I would see this more of a formatting "feature" and not of a
>>> formatting "correction", I wonder if the initial user-default with these
>>> switched ON makes sense. To me, such a "feature" would be best
>>> rationalized as a feature one would offer to a user wishing to use
>>> keyboard alternatives to the conventional Ctrl-B, Ctrl-U etc switches.
>>> I wonder if, from a regular user point of view, it would make better
>>> sense to have the initial settings in "Tools-->AutoCorrect-->AutoCorrect
>>> Options-->Options" set with these switches OFF (default). This would
>>> then mean that, should a user start typing a URL such as /home/test,
>>> that user would not continually have to battle to rid him/herself of the
>>> "home" being formatted into an italics "home" and not being allowed to
>>> complete the URL without being formatting before typing the complete
>>> line as is. I would argue, that, setting the switches to the OFF
>>> position as the LibreOffice default, would return a format that one
>>> would expect when typing any stings such as /home/test etc.
>>> Having these switches turned ON as the LibreOffice default, from the
>>> point of view of a regular-user wishing to adopt the LibreOffice suite,
>>> returns a behaviour that is NOT expected, and, raises the level of
>>> frustration a little more as to deciding whether to adopt the suite or
>>> expecting to trouble-shoot an issue where the result goes contrary to
>>> what one would expect.
>>> I wonder if we could re-consider the ON-default and leave these switches
>>> to the OFF position?
>>> This would then give a better result of, where more-advanced-users,
>>> wishing to adopt the LibreOffice suite, and, wanting to expand
>>> formatting switches, being pleasantly surprised that these switches
>>> exist (a positive reaction), rather than what we presently have, where,
>>> a regular-user wishing to adopt the LibreOffice suite, experiencing the
>>> unpleasant auto-correction switches formatting text in a way that is not
>>> expected (a negative reaction) and making that user doubt his/her choice
>>> of LIbreOffice adoption.
>>> Leaving new-LibreOffice adopters with a good impression, with very few,
>>> if any, complaints would seem to be a good goal; making the initial
>>> default to the OFF position, in my opinion, a good change.
>>> Marc
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