[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-10-08

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Oct 8 14:44:00 UTC 2020


* Present:
    + Heiko, Michael W, Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Stephan, Olivier, Miklos, Xisco, Michael S, Eike, Gabriel, Justin

* Completed Action Items:
    + None

* Pending Action Items:
    + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.0 status
       + 7.0.2: released as final earlier today
       + 7.0.3 rc1 is in 3 weeks
    + 6.4 status
       + 6.4.7: rc2 builds are in progress (last scheduled release)
    + 7.1 Release plan added to the wiki
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/7.1
      + alpha1 week 43 (Oct 19)
      + beta1/7-1 branch: week 47 (Nov 16)
      + string/UI-freeze: week 51 (Dec 14)
      + later releases are a little more timed apart
        + moved 7.0.5 and 7.0.6 back one week to avoid overlap
        + shout/complain if that doesn’t fit
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
       + HEADS UP!: please fill “extended tips” when you touch dialogs *.ui
       + use “extended_tip” as part of the string’s context attribute (convention, not requirement)
       + Extended tips are stored in “acessible-description” field in “acessibility” tab
       + Use Glade 3.36 minimum
       + https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-September/086008.html
        + a11y howto will be added to the wiki (Olivier)
    + help contents2
      + Updates and refactor by S. Chaiklin, T. Stewart, Johnny_M, gar Soul, ohallot
    + Google seasons of Doc
      + Wiki Calc help: on going
      + Advanced Calc E-Learning: On going
         + adjusting Moodle instance
    + Guides
        + progressing
        + New Authors coming for Guide update
        + Finished front and back covers for 7.0 versions.


* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        244(244) (topicUI) bugs open, 260(260) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
             added       7(-4)    26(-7)     61(-5)    170(-3)
         commented     114(5)    430(26)   1050(1)    3837(48)
           removed       0(-2)     5(-3)      8(-4)     55(-3)
          resolved      21(4)     71(13)    125(10)    425(12)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 351 changes in 1 month, and 2246 changes in 1 year
          Telesto made 90 changes in 1 month, and 568 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 88 changes in 1 month, and 621 changes in 1 year
          BogdanB made 74 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 70 changes in 1 month, and 489 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 48 changes in 1 month, and 515 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 44 changes in 1 month, and 276 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 26 changes in 1 month, and 136 changes in 1 year
          Seth Chaiklin made 23 changes in 1 month, and 181 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 21 changes in 1 month, and 251 changes in 1 year

     * New tickets with needsUXEval Oct/02-Oct/08

       * Improve pivot table workflow and usage
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137321
       * Not possible to edit any fields inserted from Docinformation tab
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137298
    -> * Table of Contents dialog is too large
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137269
       * Edit --> Fields... fails to highlight or otherwise indicate the current
         field while navigating forward and backward, making locating the field
         in question cumbersome and slow.
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137210
       + Add "Color Replacer" to Writer (currently it only exists in
         Draw/Impress)
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137214
       * there is no project container for combination of all LO-formats, odm is
         limited to writer
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137207
       => in discussion

       * Opening a PPS (File -> Open -> PPS) automatically starts the
         presentation (expected edit mode)
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137283
       => DUP

     * View > User Interface > submenu replaced by a dialog (first tip
       recommending to pick a UI executes this dialog)
       + resolves https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117463
       + UNO commands can be attached to tips now

* Crash testing (Caolan)
    + 7(+1) import failure, 0(-1) export failures
    + 0 coverity issues
    + 10 ossfuzz issues
      + all timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
        + (-94) 1510 1604 1618 1744 1814 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
        + (+214) 1778 1564 1306 1053 874 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
        + (-185) 3767 3952 4171 5084 6489 3840 788 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.1.2
        + (+2037) 6598 4561 3223 1986 0
   + last week a patch was submitted to fix one of the top 5 crashes, let’s see (Xisco)
     + no steps reproduce, a blind fix

* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week      1 month      3 months     12 months
                  open      67(-28)     127(-13)     128(-13)      137(-13)
               reviews     450(-136)   1754(-158)   4564(-54)    19487(-163)
                merged     347(-42)    1724(-47)    4910(-231)   19839(-123)
             abandoned      35(15)      104(20)      244(20)      1055(15)
           own commits     266(-39)    1294(-35)    3657(-163)   16050(-253)
        review commits      57(-52)     354(-93)    1146(-38)     4767(-84)
        contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months      12 months
                  open      26(-5)      65(-2)        66(-2)        69(-1)
               reviews     992(-88)   4194(-242)   11968(-761)   45450(-86)
                merged      26(2)      106(-41)      362(-19)     1585(21)
             abandoned       4(1)       18(-7)        96(-13)      558(3)
           own commits      28(-1)     120(-40)      465(-32)     1661(20)
        review commits       0(0)        0(0)          0(0)          0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 245(245)
       total 291(291)   assigned 14(14)   open 256(256)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Johnny_M made 15 patches in 1 month, and 307 patches in 1 year
          George Bateman made 10 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
          Alain Romedenne made 7 patches in 1 month, and 147 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 7 patches in 1 month, and 73 patches in 1 year
          Regényi Balázs made 7 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
          Attila Szűcs made 6 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
          Dániel Arató made 5 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
          Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
          Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
          Tomofumi Yagi made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Timar, Andras made 204 review comments in 1 month, and 1524 in 1 year
          Nabet, Julien made 160 review comments in 1 month, and 1442 in 1 year
          McNamara, Caolán made 136 review comments in 1 month, and 828 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 1370 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 1306 in 1 year
          Németh, László made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 650 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 808 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 920 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 1146 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 944 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#124176 Replace include guards with #pragma once ( George Bateman )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/100027

        Draw/Impress: Enable "Fit to Page" by default ( Samuel Mehrbrodt )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/100173
            - change of default, good to have a ticket/discussion first (Heiko)

        tdf#134742 Distinguishing all CJK fonts such as Noto CJK Fonts. ( DaeHyun Sung )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/99951

    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Nikhil Varghese
          Triveni
          Travis Stewart

* Commit Access
  + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 0 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently inactive
    + now is the time to start building a new proposal (Thorsten)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
    from:Thu Oct  1 13:24:25 2020
    master linux rel  jobs:  44 ok:  41 ko:   3 fail ratio:  6.82 % break:   2 broken duration: 2.19%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  41 ok:  28 ko:  13 fail ratio: 31.71 % break:   3 broken duration:34.56%
    master mac rel    jobs:  84 ok:  81 ko:   3 fail ratio:  3.57 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.57%
    master mac dbg    jobs:  92 ok:  89 ko:   3 fail ratio:  3.26 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.50%
    master win rel    jobs:  59 ok:  57 ko:   2 fail ratio:  3.39 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.19%
    master win dbg    jobs:  59 ok:  56 ko:   3 fail ratio:  5.08 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.34%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  60 ok:  57 ko:   3 fail ratio:  5.00 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.23%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 544 ok: 430 ko:  92 fail ratio: 16.91% time for ok: mean:  21 median:  22
    master gerrit plg jobs: 536 ok: 324 ko: 163 fail ratio: 30.41% time for ok: mean:  37 median:  35
    master gerrit win jobs: 562 ok: 410 ko:  91 fail ratio: 16.19% time for ok: mean:  67 median:  60
    master gerrit mac jobs: 543 ok: 431 ko:  82 fail ratio: 15.10% time for ok: mean:  30 median:  28
    master gerrit all jobs: 541 ok: 294 ko: 175 fail ratio: 32.35% time for ok: mean: 116 median: 105
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_201008.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
      3 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter		gerrit_windows
      3 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      3 CppunitTest_xmlsecurity_signing		gerrit_windows
      5 CppunitTest_sd_export_ooxml2		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
     61 Killed by the kill-wrapper		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + much less Windows problems
   + there was a clash: UITest vs code change at the same time, both verified by Jenkins on its own


  + Some asserts in UItests don’t fail, abort instead ( Xisco )
	- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/103993
     + AI: will take a look later (Stephan)

  + Android has now 2 workers
     + problem with running out of disk space, twice, now fixed
     + already caught real problems pre-commit

* l10n (Sophie)
  + working is ongoing

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 16 (-1) open bugs, 124 total (+0)

* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
  + some people wondered if it is possible to pre-record the talk?
    - possible, but not a requirement
  + need to decide how to handle the next week, “during” the conference (Miklos)
    + works for me (Cloph)
    + usual time slot, but unusual agenda (Thorsten)
      + taking questions from the audience
      + share plans / what’s cooking section / longer-term directions

* Decide on what to do with the translation/gerrit of online.git (Thorsten)
  + 1 patch from non-Collabora, should be merged at some stage
  + would not be fair to leave online.git open but nobody really care
    + to not disappoint contributors
  + other proposal: github mirror, mirrors gerrit, could mirror CollaboraOnline’s online repo
  + to be discussed, no decision is needed right now
  + Andras ensures that no translation work will be lost (Miklos)
  + ESC is the right place to discuss development & translation (Thorsten)
    + prefer that it’s discussed here and not in the board
    + will TDF continue the development of LOOL? (Heiko)
    + right now there is no parallel development in gerrit (Thorsten)
    + who wants to continue LOOL? (Heiko)
      + need to discuss that, in public (Thorsten)
      + having opinion is free, but doers should decide
      + can’t say “TDF should do this&that” but then nobody doing anything
      + for the moment, on the table, needs more discussion, also perhaps next week
      + personal take: hate pointless forking

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 1306 (+37)
        + enhancements: 135  (+7)
        + needsUXEval: 8 (-5)
        + haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 15 (+0)
        + documentation:  16 (+2)
        + android:  5 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  22 (-2)


    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
        + When saving an encrypted document, unchecking 'Save with password' has no effect, encryption is kept
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133771
            + Vasily?
            + original commit intention is not clear (Xisco)
              + don’t know what would be the consequence of a revert
            + if you revert that, you probably loose encryption functionality (Thorsten)
              + or wait a bit and see if Vasily can fixes it? (Xisco)
              + have a month to fix it in some way

     Old:
       + PDF export: LibreOffice 6.3 option buttons in forms not working in Adobe Reader (OK in other readers)
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127217
           + Thorsten ?

       + CRASH: Chart: Changing properties in different objects
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133630
           + Muhammet ?

       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates


    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + Unable to backspace over some text (track changes)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137241
            + Michael S?

        + Calc - AutoCalculate malfunction, always F9 (ReCalculate) necessary
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137248
            + Lubos?

        + Deleting columns in a table can delete several columns if any cells in that column are merged with other cells
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46733
            + not a regression

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +157  +24 (-162) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Heiko Tietze            23
       QA Administrators       12
       Timur                   11
       Buovjaga                10
       andreas_k               10
       Aron Budea              9
       Mike Kaganski           7
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   7
       sdc.blanco              7
       BogdanB                 5

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 6
       sdc.blanco              5
       Buovjaga                4
       Mike Kaganski           3
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   3
       R. Green                3
       TH                      3
       gary tuthill            3
       Andrew                  2
       Frederic Parrenin       2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Heiko Tietze            5
       Attila Szűcs            3
       McNamara, Caolán        3
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   3
       Seth Chaiklin           3
       Budea, Áron             2
       Timur                   2
       Xisco Fauli             2
                               1
       Attila Bakos            1

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Dieter Praas            9
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      7
       Xisco Fauli             7
       Nabet, Julien           6
       Telesto                 6
       Timur                   6
       m.a.riosv               6
       *UNKNOWN*               5
       Heiko Tietze            5
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 6/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 883/4780 881/4768 874/4746 880/4729 862/4687 848/4656 842/4631

     done by:
        Timur                  4
        Telesto                4
        Xisco Fauli            2
        barakso.attila         1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 1057/5667 1057/5654 1049/5632 1055/5615 1046/5583 1034/5552 1025/5522

     done by:
        Timur                  5
        Telesto                4
        Xisco Fauli            2
        barakso.attila         1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1324(-4) bugs open of 10318(+10) total 15(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Telesto                6
        Timur                  2
        Cor Nouws              1
        Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 8(+1)
     Calc          - 3(+0)
     Impress       - 2(-1)
     Chart         - 1(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 13(+1)
     Linux         - 1(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 1(-1)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 420(+0)
     Calc                     - 228(+0)
     Impress                  - 147(-2)
     LibreOffice              - 56(-1)
     Writer: docx filter      - 55(+1)
     Crashes                  - 54(-3)
     Draw                     - 48(+0)
     Borders                  - 43(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 42(+1)
     UI                       - 41(+0)
     Base                     - 35(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 31(+1)
     Writer: doc filter       - 28(+0)
     RTL                      - 24(+1)
     Chart                    - 23(-1)
     graphics stack           - 23(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 22(+0)
     filters and storage      - 20(+0)
     BASIC                    - 14(+0)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 1(+0)
     Installation             - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)


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