ESC meeting minutes: 2024-09-12

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Sep 12 14:45:47 UTC 2024


* Present:
   + Olivier, Caolan, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael W, Regina, Stephan, Cloph, Hossein, Xisco, Thorsten, Michael S, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.2 rc1 in 1 week
     + no rc2 is planned here, due to the upcoming crash fix, see below in the crashporting section (Xisco)
   + 24.2.7 rc1 in 4 weeks

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
        + special compliments to Sahil for adding a feature + its Help page, very rare.
        + update and fixes (Pierre F, Dione Maddern, Ohallot)
        + Disambiguate bookmarks (ohallot)
           + 1 dialog - 2 diffferent functions (Ttest dialog and Ftest dialog)
           + Can we replace HID_* by dialog widgets url ?
               + DBACCESS_HID*
               + the dialog case seems to be easy to fix
                 + also easier to maintain
               + easy hack for this? (Miklos)
               + AI: Hossein to follow-up on this
     + Guides
         + Work in progress

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         225(225) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     14(3)     63(-6)   117(2)     262(2)
          commented     35(1)    189(4)    350(20)    980(17)
           resolved      5(-1)    33(-2)    74(3)     174(5)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 112 changes in 1 month, and 211 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 56 changes in 1 month, and 332 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 44 changes in 1 month, and 133 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 34 changes in 1 month, and 156 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 33 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 13 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 11 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 10 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 10 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         231(231) (topicUI) bugs open, 29(29) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      8(3)     14(6)     14(6)       23(6)
          commented     63(13)   155(43)   411(42)    1710(27)
            removed      1(1)      1(1)      3(1)       11(1)
           resolved      7(3)     21(4)     68(2)      268(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 76 changes in 1 month, and 923 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 54 changes in 1 month, and 180 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 34 changes in 1 month, and 344 changes in 1 year
           steve made 18 changes in 1 month, and 25 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 15 changes in 1 month, and 50 changes in 1 year
           Ademas made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
           Cor Nouws made 11 changes in 1 month, and 36 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 8 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 6 changes in 1 month, and 105 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 162904] Add font filename and version to character format dialog
  -> + [Bug 162919] Suggest adding feature to Calc to improve ease of updating
            data plotted in charts
            + Excel seem to have a better UI here
            + OTOH Calc has working drag&drop
     + [Bug 162354] Request Formatting cells in calc ( transfering / coppying formats )
            from one to another
     + [Bug 162870] Character spacing doesn't function with used-defined format code
            OR formulas
     + [Bug 162878] Reworked localized Impress templates look ugly in RU
     + [Bug 162160] Poor data label rendering strategy with high number of slices
            in pie chart
     + [Bug 162110] LibreOffice Calc scrolling speed problem when dragging image
     + [Bug 153991] Sidebar panel character deck/tab doesn't allow switching
            language groups
     + [Bug 153992] Sidebar character deck/tab doesn't indicate the current
            language/language group

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 15(+0) import failure, 13(+0) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 424 coverity issues
     + 2 ossfuzz issues
       - 1 hang, 1 crash
       - upsteam autoclosing bug fix now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 24.2.4.2    16085(+740)
     + 24.2.5.2    18776(+2638)
     + 24.2.6.2    82(+0)
     + 24.8.0.3    7942(+3720)

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwTextINetFormat::GetCharFormat()

     - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162911

     - Patch in gerrit: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/173267

     - ~30% reports in 24.8.0.3. 2480 out of 8150 reports

     - 24.8/master-only problem

     - ship this to users faster than usual? (Xisco)
     - could do just 1 RC for 24.8.2, then release in 2 weeks (Cloph)
     - does the bug have many duplicates or many crashreports?
       - it's the crashreports (Xisco)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
     + Window WSL / mingw issues
       + git-bash should be used instead of mingw git (Hossein)
       + wsl-as-helper is meant to work with git-bash from the Visual Studio installer (Cloph)
         + otherwise the build will fail in e.g. liblangtag
       + follow the wiki, it's documented like this (Hossein)
         https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWSLWindows

           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      64(-7)     137(-14)    152(-12)     152(-12)
                reviews     570(144)   1442(156)   3942(136)   13072(112)
                 merged     298(-47)   1272(75)    3755(65)    13219(46)
              abandoned       6(0)       46(-23)    212(-22)     748(-13)
            own commits     176(-54)    905(10)    2537(24)     9612(-5)
         review commits      59(2)      246(9)      765(6)      3116(16)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open      36(-2)      95(3)      104(-1)     104(-1)
                reviews     768(-86)   3044(104)   8390(78)   29928(90)
                 merged      26(5)      117(4)      323(16)    1467(5)
              abandoned       5(0)       16(-1)      76(-5)     588(4)
            own commits      19(-9)      98(-4)     338(2)     1272(11)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 327(327)
        total 412(412)   assigned 26(26)   open 351(351)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 26 patches in 1 month, and 84 patches in 1 year
           Adam Seskunas made 10 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 7 patches in 1 month, and 80 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 5 patches in 1 month, and 93 patches in 1 year
             made 5 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 5 patches in 1 month, and 25 patches in 1 year
           Hubert Figuière made 5 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Hamed made 3 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Tzschichholz, Rico made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 2 patches in 1 month, and 38 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Michael Stahl made 152 review comments in 1 month, and 898 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 1436 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 638 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 814 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 520 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 640 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 502 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 774 in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 294 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 324 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#148192 Create new option External Firebird under create new database ( Juan C. Sanz )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/143902
         WIP: tdf#51779 - Support for SQL datatype INTERVAL ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165012
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Eloi Montañés

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + 4 projects with extensions, to be finished till the end of Sept

* LiboCon (Cloph)
  + Development workshop (planned for 11th and 12th of October; Hossein)
    https://conference.libreoffice.org/2024/workshop-introduction-to-libreoffice-development
    https://conference.libreoffice.org/2024/register-to-workshop
    + program is slightly modified
    + website will be updated
    + then a blogpost will go out
  + all attendees, whether speaker or not, please also register:
     conference: https://conference.libreoffice.org/2024/register
  + when to expect feedback on talks? accepted or not (Thorsten)
    + not sure (Cloph)
    + AI: Hossein to sync with Italo, and figure out the ETA

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 16 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 161 ok: 155 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.24% mean_ok:  13 ( 24) median_ok:   9 ( 17)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 161 ok: 155 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.86% mean_ok:  12 ( 23) median_ok:   9 ( 13)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 161 ok: 157 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.62% mean_ok:  13 ( 23) median_ok:   8 ( 17)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 161 ok: 157 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.24% mean_ok:  12 ( 23) median_ok:   8 ( 17)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 327 ok: 258 ko:  57 fail ratio: 17.43% mean_ok:  59 ( 70) median_ok:  55 ( 62)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 370 ok: 313 ko:  34 fail ratio: 9.19% mean_ok:  27 ( 36) median_ok:  20 ( 25)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 325 ok: 292 ko:  17 fail ratio: 5.23% mean_ok:  63 ( 77) median_ok:  56 ( 65)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 353 ok: 253 ko:  80 fail ratio: 22.66% mean_ok:  70 (111) median_ok:  65 ( 79)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 412 ok: 215 ko: 152 fail ratio: 36.89% mean_ok: 145 (145) median_ok: 119 (119)
gerrit_master              jobs:  59 ok:  24 ko:  28 fail ratio: 47.46% mean_ok: 106 (106) median_ok:  90 ( 90)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 350 ok: 192 ko: 121 fail ratio: 34.57% mean_ok: 148 (149) median_ok: 121 (121)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sd_tiledrendering                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter3                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       3 JunitTest_svx_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      33 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
   + this week: wasn't too bad (Cloph)
     + still a high number of builds aborting on Windows
     + perhaps it may be a test that triggers an interactive dialog, still investigating

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + implement announcement of keyboard-triggered formatting changes in NVDA
       ( https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6915 )
     + misc smaller fixes + wina11y code cleanup, upstream Accerciser improvements
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#162803 Invalid kashida array after text box layout
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162803
       + Fixed
     + tdf#107184 "Group" feature for the Asian Phonetic Guide
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107184
       + General APG implementation improvements
       + Feature implemented
     + tdf#156543: "Mono" feature for the Asian Phonetic Guide
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156543
       + In progress
   + CairoSDPR from Armin
     + ~done, behind experimental mode on master
   + Playing with a new baseline with Windows (Cloph)
     + one cppunit test failing, due to too low resolution
     + have a good setup, winget + shell scripts
     + .vsconfig file to automate visual studio component installation
     + parallel builds perform badly, investigating

* Remove hard-coded key combination shift+ctrl+f6 (Heiko)
   https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2024-September/092436.html
   + badly documented and maintaned function; likely not intended,
     no generic shortcut
   + occupies precious shortcut, which could be used for uno:ToggleControlFocus
   + drawback: no keyboard-only access to split window position
   + propose to remove it, and leave the shortcut unassigned
   + ask on the a11y list before removal (Michael W)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1248 (+13)
         + enhancements: 298  (+8)
         + needsUXEval: 7 (+3)
         + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+1)
         + documentation:  7 (-2)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         + Inserting multiple Hyperlinks and undoing an insertion (Ctrl-Z) crashes Writer
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162911
             + See Crash Reporting section
             + fix is already pending CI, thanks to Michael S


     + New high severity bugs of the week:

         + Win11 dark theme support--Active selections have light blue background which makes white icons and text almost invisible
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152534

         + Opening "Export directly as PDF" dialog deletes text hidden via character formatting
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162298
             + Henry?

* QA stats (Xisco)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +134  -11 (-118) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                12
        Mike Kaganski           11
        QA Administrators       11
        Xisco Faulí             8
        m_a_riosv               7
        Heiko Tietze            6
        V Stuart Foote          6
        Cor Nouws               4
        Julien Nabet            4
        Robert Großkopf         3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        yoylasfpgas             7
        nobu                    4
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Rafael Lima             3
        Telesto                 3
        Buovjaga                2
        Caleb Meredith          2
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Olivier Hallot          2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Nabet, Julien           4
        Heiko Tietze            3
        David Gilbert           2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Justin Luth             2
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        Kira Tubo               2
        Timur Gadzo             2
        *UNKNOWN*               1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      29
        m.a.riosv               10
        Heiko Tietze            7
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Robert Großkopf         4
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    4
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Raal                    3
        Rafael Lima             3
        Ady                     2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            6
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     4
         Raal                   3
         Steve271               1
         Kaganski, Mike         1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     6
         Xisco Fauli            6
         Raal                   3
         Steve271               1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1221(+8) bugs open of 13608(+23) total 24(+1) high prio.

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     6
         Xisco Fauli            5
         m.a.riosv              3
         David Gilbert          1
         Wolfgang Jäger         1
         Kaganski, Mike         1
         Raal                   1
         Henschel, Regina       1
         Nabet, Julien          1
         Telesto                1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 11(+1)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      UI            - 2(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(+1)
      Linux         - 6(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 394(+6)
      Calc                     - 246(+3)
      Impress                  - 121(-4)
      LibreOffice              - 53(-1)
      Draw                     - 51(-1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+3)
      Base                     - 41(+1)
      UI                       - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 34(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 33(+2)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 29(+2)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 24(+1)
      BASIC                    - 21(+1)
      filters and storage      - 21(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 17(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 11(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+1)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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