Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Aug-13

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Sahil, Eyal, John, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Werner, Telesto


Tickets/Topics

  * Writer table formulas: hide "phd"
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167580
    + +1 (Stuart, Heiko)
    + "Expression faulty", eg after "=phd <a1>" unclear and we should
      explain why (Sahil)
      + different topic (Heiko)
    + objection on principle; why was it added in first place (Eyal)
      + probably because of compatibility reason (Heiko)
      + =a1+phd15 => !Syntax Error, 15ﮜȦ in MSO; and no percent function
        in a recent version (Heiko)
    + miscalculation? (Sahil); not sure how to interpret "x phd" (Heiko)
    + formula work also outside tables; =10% reveals the same result as
      = 10 phd (Eyal)
    => agreement to hide phd

  * When the font format of a cell is bold, the corresponding
    parentheses in the formula cannot be identified
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166053
    + unclear how boldening works (some numeric weight or just not
      regular) (Eyal)
    + do not allow bold for cells with formulas (Sahil)
    + a) if a user messes up with the formatting so it should be (Heiko)
    + b) drop all formatting in edit mode (Heiko)
    + c) invert the format and show the corresponding bracket in regular
      if the cell text is bold (Heiko)
    + like c) (Eyal)
    => comment

  * Excessive number of rows and columns
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167674
    + no need (Werner)
    + hiding rows/columns works (Heiko)
    + inappropriate scrollbar behavior (Telesto)
    + it should be possible to limit the number of rows/columns (Eyal)
      + disagree, there is no use case that cannot be solved with
        hiding (Heiko)
      + hidden col/rows can contain content and will be considered
        for calculations/macros etc. (Eyal)
      + agree with the use case (Sahil)
      + have a colleague that wanted this limitation (John)
    => comment

  * SLIDESHOW: Define Cursor per Slide, e.g. Arrow, Cross, Laser
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160422
    + option for the presenter console, at max (Stuart, Heiko)
      + changing the cursor should be simple and is done actually
        with the pen mode (Heiko)
    + cursor per region could be nice (Eyal)
      + but requires standardization cross-application (Heiko)
    + easy to implement, region could be done by mapping the
      cursor to style names (Sahil)
    => comment

  * Vertical tabs
    + done (except some Base dialogs, Hyperlink, and Welcome)
    + please check carefully for inappropriate icons, wrong labels
      bad alignment, positioning, artifacts etc.
    + list of dialogs attached to 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167084
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