ESC meeting minutes: 2025-08-14

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 14 14:34:46 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Ilmari, Jonathan, Stephan, Cloph, Miklos, Michael W, Xisco, Olivier, Heiko, Caolan, Regina

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
   + QA stats: bibisect duplication removal from the script (Xisco)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 25.8.0: additional rc4 for a crashfix + follow-up fix
     + on the mirrors
     + redoing the arm64 windows build
       + also 25.2.5
       + not building on the baseline as a fix
   + 25.2.6 rc1 this week
     + will do the tagging after the rebuilds, probably tomorrow

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents
        + updates and fixes (ohallot)
     + Guides
        + Community discussing book template
        + q: New brand logo?
          + there was no discussion about a new splash screen so far (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         215(215) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     6(2)     13(-2)     40(-3)    246(-5)
          commented     8(-10)   36(-5)    197(-10)   825(-26)
           resolved     1(-1)     4(-6)     28(-1)    126(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 27 changes in 1 month, and 377 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 15 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
           Pierre made 5 changes in 1 month, and 25 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
           vijaya chandra made 3 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Jürgen Kirsten made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 2 changes in 1 month, and 64 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
           Werner Tietz made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
           Philippe Cloutier made 1 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         220(220) (topicUI) bugs open, 18(18) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      1(-3)     11(-2)    13(0)      19(0)
          commented     17(-22)   108(3)    173(9)     872(-9)
            removed      0(0)       0(0)      2(0)       6(0)
           resolved      1(0)       3(-1)    20(0)     139(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 38 changes in 1 month, and 392 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 25 changes in 1 month, and 41 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 22 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 21 changes in 1 month, and 280 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 20 changes in 1 month, and 195 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 13 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
           vic made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
           Rosalio Morales made 9 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
           Ivan Stephen made 9 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year

     + [Bug 167949] Styles: add "Custom and Applied Styles" option
  -> + [Bug 167905] Writer should can import autotext items from not only MS Word
            files but from ODT/OTT files too
        + remove the function to load AT from Word 2007 (and earlier)
        + would suggest to be careful with just removing (Miklos)
          + seems there are existing users of the "import from DOCX" part
        + a "document" for hosting autotext templates sounds weird (Heiko)
     + [Bug 167868] It is too difficult to change the order of columns (or rows)

  -> + Vertical tabs
       + done (except some Base dialogs, Hyperlink, and Welcome)
       + please check carefully for inapproprioate icons, wrong labels
         bad alignment, positioning, artifacts etc.
       + list of dialogs attached to
         https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167084

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 134(+5) import failure, 27(+1) export failures
       - 116 issues
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 79 coverity issues
     + 6 ossfuzz issues
       - 4 timeouts, 1 OOM, 1 crash

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 25.2.4.3    73421(+7650)
     + 25.2.5.2    8811(+3644)
     + 25.8.0.1    245(+20)
     + 25.8.0.2    188(+137)


     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/StyleItemController::DrawEntry(OutputDevice%20&,SfxStyleSheetBase%20*)

     - New in 25.8

     - font previews in notebookbar

     - trying to find the steps to reproduce


     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwTableShell::GetState(SfxItemSet%20&)

       - Fixed in 25.8.0 RC4


     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/ScDocument::FillInfo(ScTableInfo%20&,short,long,short,long,short,double,double,bool,bool,ScMarkData%20const%20*)

       - Fixed in 25.8.0 RC4


* Mentoring/easyhack update (Ilmari)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      98(11)     155(-4)     156(-3)      156(-3)
                reviews     474(88)    1336(-6)    2892(110)   11240(104)
                 merged     434(85)    1435(146)   3561(208)   13024(228)
              abandoned      10(-9)      53(-8)     153(-1)      625(-18)
            own commits     258(-49)   1021(72)    2613(66)     9940(85)
         review commits      55(17)     149(9)      458(4)      2575(14)
         contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open       94(23)     151(28)     154(24)      154(24)
                reviews     1206(162)   3602(300)   8398(348)   32132(340)
                 merged       39(19)      95(18)     293(-8)     2321(-19)
              abandoned       12(-17)     39(-3)     633(-4)     1560(-3)
            own commits       18(2)       67(-3)     176(0)      1092(7)
         review commits        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 343(343)
        total 407(407)   assigned 49(49)   open 318(318)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Armin Le Grand (collabora) made 13 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
           Pierre Vacher made 6 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Simon Chenery made 5 patches in 1 month, and 70 patches in 1 year
           Ujjawal Kumar made 4 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
           Hubert Figuière made 3 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Manish Mahapatra made 3 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Paul McQuade made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Marc Mondesir made 2 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Parth Raiyani made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Vajna, Miklos made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 1224 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 834 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 482 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 108 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 784 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 778 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 570 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 280 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 838 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 530 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#145614 ( Khanh Nguyen )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/185600
         libxml2: replace deprecated recovery ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/186286
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           George-Alexandru Berea alexberea05 at gmail.com
           sahibjot sahibjot70 at gmail.com

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + next update closer to the deadline (end of August)
   + mentors: if the project time is to be expanded, let Ilmari know
     + 2 projects are already expanded

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/László)
   + resting since: 12 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 229 ok: 216 ko:   6 fail ratio: 2.62% mean_ok:  14 ( 25) median_ok:  11 ( 19)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 229 ok: 217 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.18% mean_ok:  14 ( 26) median_ok:  12 ( 19)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 228 ok: 219 ko:   6 fail ratio: 2.63% mean_ok:  13 ( 24) median_ok:  11 ( 19)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 229 ok: 216 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.18% mean_ok:  14 ( 26) median_ok:  12 ( 20)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 476 ok: 371 ko:  82 fail ratio: 17.23% mean_ok:  46 ( 56) median_ok:  43 ( 51)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 534 ok: 429 ko:  72 fail ratio: 13.48% mean_ok:  26 ( 34) median_ok:  20 ( 27)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 539 ok: 383 ko: 124 fail ratio: 23.01% mean_ok:  57 ( 60) median_ok:  49 ( 54)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 498 ok: 378 ko:  94 fail ratio: 18.88% mean_ok:  48 ( 55) median_ok:  38 ( 42)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 594 ok: 309 ko: 222 fail ratio: 37.37% mean_ok: 100 (100) median_ok:  90 ( 90)
gerrit_master              jobs:  66 ok:  27 ko:  28 fail ratio: 42.42% mean_ok:  86 ( 86) median_ok:  77 ( 77)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 532 ok: 286 ko: 194 fail ratio: 36.47% mean_ok: 100 (100) median_ok:  91 ( 91)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sw_embedded_fonts                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport25                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 JunitTest_sw_unoapi_3                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_vcl_pdf_encryption                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 CppunitTest_vcl_text                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 CppunitTest_vcl_pdfexport2                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      11 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      12 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
    + this week: many more builds again, good
      + number of failures are also scaling, though
    + CppunitTest_vcl_pdfexport2 -> related to the Bitmap work; caught in time (pre-submit)
      + Xisco reworked this to be useful again

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + tdf#167930: "Removing the accessible selection unexpectedly sets the caret
       offset to 0"
     + planning to look into implementing AT-SPI Collection support in Qt (and possibly GTK 4)
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#167567 UI: Underlined letter in Arabic labels drawn as disconnected form
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167567
       + Bug in Qt, several years old
       + Have a local fix; working on submitting to upstream
   + ODF-TC (Olivier + Regina)
     + ongoing maintenance (Regina)
     + discussing the terminology of the LOOKUP function (Olivier)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1911 (+19)
         + enhancements: 512  (+5)
         + needsUXEval: 10 (+1)
         + haveBackTrace: 16 (+1)
         + needsDevAdvice: 49 (+1)
         + documentation:  1 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  6 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
          None
      Fixed:
         + Writer crashes if you right click in latest table in the big document
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167875, thanks Xisco

         + Creating or editing secondary x-axis in a chart crashes program
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167859, thanks Xisco

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         None

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +103  -6 (-58) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                6
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Xisco Faulí             6
        Saburo                  4
        m_a_riosv               4
        Markus Mohrhard         3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Julien Nabet            2
        Regina Henschel         2
        opensuse.lietuviu.kalba 2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Mike Kaganski           4
        nobu                    4
        Buovjaga                3
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
        Gerald Pfeifer          3
        林博仁 Buo-ren Lin         3
        Jim Avera               2
        LeroyG                  2
        Roman Kuznetsov         2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Xisco Fauli             4
        Henschel, Regina        2
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        Mohrhard, Markus        2
        *UNKNOWN*               1
        Caolán McNamara         1
        David Gilbert           1
        Justin Luth             1
        Kosiorek, Bartosz       1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               10
        Raal                    8
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Jesus Solis             4
        Kaganski, Mike          4
        Pierre                  4
        Henschel, Regina        3
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      3
        Olivier Hallot          3


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         7
         Raal                   4
         Xisco Fauli            4
         jussuom                1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         7
         Raal                   4
         Xisco Fauli            4
         jussuom                1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1288(+10) bugs open of 14244(+21) total 21(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         4
         Raal                   3
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         nobu                   2
         Roman Kuznetsov        1
         m.a.riosv              1
         Kaganski, Mike         1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 10(+0)
      Calc          - 5(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 3(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)
      filters and storage - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(+0)
      Linux         - 5(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 0(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 428(+5)
      Calc                     - 247(-2)
      Impress                  - 133(+2)
      LibreOffice              - 61(+1)
      Draw                     - 47(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 46(+1)
      Crashes                  - 44(-1)
      UI                       - 42(+3)
      Borders                  - 38(-1)
      Base                     - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 29(+0)
      filters and storage      - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 25(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 20(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 15(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 9(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(-1)
      Installation             - 1(+0)


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