[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PUSHED] Re: [Fwd: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Removes zoom button from default standard toolbar]

Jan Holesovsky kendy at suse.cz
Mon Jun 13 23:12:59 PDT 2011

Hi Christoph, Samuel,

On 2011-06-13 at 19:09 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote:

> A really good summary why the Zoom Slider is "half done", made up by
> Clément:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Zoom_Slider#Design_and_User_Experience_issues
> An own proposal made some years ago (wow, really old):
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7j1oz1mNWErztZKj45Bycw?feat=directlink
> Plus, some of the functionality nicely (visually) presented in the
> today's toolbar is simply missing / less understandable if the toolbar
> item would be removed in other applications, e.g. Draw/Impress. My main
> concern - something like "Zoom" should really be consistent across all
> applications.
> So, Sam, any chance that some of the features can be moved to the status
> bar? I'm sure the code will be totally different :-\

Interestingly, the Zoom slider is my another favorite area that I'd like
to hack on, or help somebody who is interested in hacking it ;-)

I believe the Zoom slider is one of the most used tools overall, and as
such, it is blocking hiding the status bar by default.  My idea I'd be
happy to have feedback on is to make it vertical, move it above the
vertical scrollbar, and hide the status bar by default.  For the
additional functionality, there might be a button similar to the
navigator button that would lead to the additional functionality.  Could
we do something like that?  Christoph, if you generally agree with this,
could you do a mockup?

[BTW - why _above_ the vertical scrollbar?  Because we are hiding the
scrollbars when they are not necessary, but obviously, the zoom tool
should be always visible, and on the same location.]

> Conclusion: Apply only, if we can have a direct follow-up activity to
> improve the zoom slider - even if it is a simple additional button that
> opens a similar toolbar or leads to the "Zoom and View Layout" dialog
> (in the first step). In any other case, I would not suggest to go with
> the patch.

I am sure we can have such follow-up activity, [for me] ideally as
described above :-)  I have pushed Samuel's patch, we can always bring
it back if we don't get to the zoom slider improvement, I hope it's OK?

Thank you,

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