[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Killed the ButtonBar in slide sorter

Cor Nouws oolst at nouenoff.nl
Tue Sep 25 05:58:08 PDT 2012

Hi Kendy, *,

Jan Holesovsky wrote (25-09-12 10:34)
> Hi Astron, UX guys,
> I've talked to an Impress power user recently, and he was complaining
> about the buttons in the slide sorter [the thing you can see on the
> attached screenshot].  This was actually not the first complaint I got,
> and also I remembered our discussions that we should do something about
> them, so I decided to just kill them for now:

Hmm, currently the pop-up is the (only?) way to see the name of the slide.
How should we think about that?

And does the removing also refer to the little toolbar in the side pane?
(If I see the number of line changes in the commit, I guess yes...)

> Slide duplication was not easily accessible after this, so I added it to
> the right-click menu:


> The rest (slide show start, hide slide) are already available easily -
> the former from a toolbar, the latter from right-click menu.  Using that
> feels surprisingly well to me, and visually it is much less disturbing -
> I hope OK for you too?

That is a quite fundamental choice...
For me, all pop-ups and toolbars may be removed of course. But I'm far 
from a representative user. As are you :-)

Therefore the good OpenOffice.org developers and people conducted a 
large project some years ago, Renaissance.
Of course the toolbar is one of the changes the was a result from that.
I guess all the work was done, because many obvious actions are not easy 
enough accessible for Joe-average. And that these were only the first 
steps in a route to make Impress (&more) more contemporary.
The little pop-ups fit more in modern UI (-expectations) I guess then 
context menu's - let alone short-cuts and pull down menus...

So I would be a bit careful to dump a lot here.
What do you think?


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