[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Impress : general feed back

[Michel RENON]

Le 19/05/2013 00:05, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Hi Michel,
>
> Michel RENON wrote (09-05-13 16:11)
>
>> While working on entrance animations, I also ran an simple test of
>> Impress and found bizarre behaviors :
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Impress_4.0_:_urgent_bugs_and_enhancements
>>
>
> Thanks for gathering those and writing down.
> I do recognise this partly. But obviously since I know how to make
> proper use of Impress, I can avoid a lot of the pitfalls.
> But that's not your point: it's for people that just need good guidance
> by a clear UI behaviour.

Yes : my famous "shower faucet" ;-)
http://michel.renon.free.fr/libreoffice/robinet_douche.jpg

>
>> What do you think of my "Proposal for urgent bugs" ?
>
> in slide view :
>
>      remove focus in "Recently used" and "Available for use"
>
> No, I would not like to remove the use.

Maybe my sentence was not precise enough : I added a picture to explain 
better :

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Proposal_for_urgent_bugs




> [...]
>      remove "Recently used" ? (ToBeConfirmed)
>
> Why would you remove that choice?
>

please note that this point is "ToBeConfirmed" because it's only based 
on my own subjective feedback :
IMHO, the "recently used" panel is very disturbing
- it's difficult to understand how to behaves, how it sorts items
- it never shows the current item
- it lists templates instead of master pages
- from a simple visual pov, it nearly duplicates the "available for use" 
panel

IMHO, the last point is the most important : a nearly duplicate UI is 
best way to disturb users.

>
>
>> Can it be implemented easily ?
>
> I've no real idea. But I think that things as disabling some tabs while
> in Master page view, and make naming more consistent, look relatively easy.
>
> Being easy is one point... another is people willing to implement it.

:-/

As a developer, I can tell you that having fun while coding is 
important. But the most important part is coding for users : creating an 
easy and useful software. Otherwise, it'll be just another software for 
few powerusers.


> And the better issues are sorted out, especially more important ones,
> the more likely it is that a developer will step in.
> IIRC several improvements in Impress have been implemented like that
> already.
> Would be good to attract those hackers too for feed back at a certain
> stage.

That's what I proposed in my articles.

> Would it be helpful (to get more people involved maybe) to have some
> graphics/screen shots?
I'm currently finishing a set of proposals (all wireframe based).
In few days, I'll upload them.
Hope you'll like them !


>
> What I like about your ideas it that you take a whole bunch related
> topics.

  Thanks !


 > Did you have a look at BugZilla for like/related issues?

No.
That's why I first asked on the mailing list.



Cheers

Michel