[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90048] Add Nicer Looking Default Styles

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Fri Apr 3 11:30:20 PDT 2015


--- Comment #3 from Mirek2 <mazelm at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #2)
> Sounds reasonable - but doesn't prevent us adding new styles that are
> prettier. I suggest something like Header1Gr, TitleGr, etc....

It's important to keep in mind that styles first and foremost carry a
structural value. That makes it possible to e.g. automatically create a table
of contents out of all the headings or to navigate by document sections. Just
like you would use the standard elements in CSS, you should use the standard
elements in LibreOffice where relevant. (Not to mention that the default style
set is already more overwhelming than it should be.)

What you're really looking for are themes, which, if we're aiming for full
Office compatibility, will have to be implemented sooner or later. Try to
encourage a dev with free time to take a look at it. The Calligra guys wanted
to work on this as well, so the dev could work together with them. (They did a
write-up on themes on
https://blogs.kde.org/2011/12/14/fruits-css2-shared-themes, and they were
willing to work on it if someone from LibreOffice worked on it as well.)

As for a better default template, I feel like better fonts could make a
difference. For example, using Open Sans (or the very similar Noto Sans) or
Source Sans Pro instead of Liberation Sans (itself a copy of Arial, which in
turn is a copy of Helvetica). The problem with that is that Open Sans isn't
available on most devices and bundling the font with every document could
dramatically increase each document's size... I'm not sure what the right
solution here is -- a thought I had was to try and persuade some influential
parties (Adobe, Google, Apple, ...) to decide on a modern set of standard fonts
(Adobe's Source family is a good candidate), but that would require someone
willing to devote a bunch of time to this, with no guarantee of a positive

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