[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

Yousuf (Jay) Philips <philipz85 at hotmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #35 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Stanislav Horacek from comment #16)
> My comment as from a person who updates the Help occasionally:
> I really welcome UI changes that are *reasonable* and *discussed*. We've
> seen a lot of them that were not (e.g. still unfinished Picture → Image,
> including silly Graphic Styles → Image Styles → Drawing Object Styles →
> Graphic Styles etc.), but I think the design team now discuss things and
> does great changes which makes sense, e.g. I like a lot the recent toolbar
> improvements.

Glad that you like it. :D

> For documenters, it would be helpful to collect the changes on this page (I
> think no one cares about it nowadays):
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges
> (Before and after screenshots for the menus would be enough.)

I normally do add changed strings there, but just incase i forgot, i'll go
through all my commits to see if there are any that i left out.

> One more point: when I see some removed items mentioned, do you consider
> that menus can be used also by searching items, like in Ubuntu's HUD? This
> is a fast and efficient way, regardless how cluttered menus are.

My goal of improving the toolbars is that regular users would never have to
open the menu bar, while advanced users are more likely to use shortcut keys
and already know the layout of the menu bar, so searching the menu bar has less
and less importance. But the option t being able to search the menu bar should
still be something to take into consideration, which is another reason to keep
those entries in the Edit menu.

(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #23)
> I mean any and all documentation that needs to be updated because of these
> changes. As far as I know when developers implement something (which this is
> development) they are responsible for documenting those implementations. I
> could be wrong - but I'm going to remove myself from CC on this one as the
> changes were made and it's outside of my area. I'm just concerned that mass
> UX changes are happening without input (Cor, Adolfo, and even Heiko seemed
> to be unaware of this pretty significant change) which creates work for
> others....worries me. That's about all I can say though - you did the work,
> as the doer, you can continue "doing" ;)

Yes the changes are made and incrementally will be improved with more feedback
from the team, which is why i opened this bug report. So you can be at ease
that the same type of benefits you are enjoying in the toolbar, you'll also
enjoy in the menu bar. Or maybe not :P

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