[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

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Thu Jun 4 05:39:19 PDT 2015


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #36 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #26)
> This argument is broken. Merge document needs to be applied to two versions
> of the same file with changes tracked.
> Compare https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Merging_Versions
> and https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Comparing_Versions_of_a_Document

The real argument here is if Edit > Compare Documents relates to track changes,
which it does, so why are you not suggesting that it also be placed under Edit
> Track Changes.

> This very change was first proposed based on improper understanding. After
> being pointed to the proper information in the Help (twice), another
> argument for the change was given. Again wrong. Then in the mean time others
> got convinced based on that wrong argument (and prolly that the workers must
> not be blocked to much).

Yes this change was proposed in bug 85046. Though i may not had fully
understanding of it when i proposed it, it was clear that the behaviour of the
entries in the Edit > Track Changes submenu were all aligned except for Merge
Document. Sophie, heiko and kendy also agreed with the change.

> The change was reverted. Now again a new argument
> is found for that change. And again not a solid
> one. I find this rather insulting personally.

You reverted the change, though you were the only one that disagreed with the
change and i felt insulted but conceded pursuing it further at that time as i
knew it the best way to deal with the menu bar was with a full overhaul.

(In reply to sophie from comment #31)
> I agree with you. What is frightening me also is that some changes are made
> without a full knowledge of the functionality with the risk to lose part of
> it (which already happened unfortunately). That should be a pre-requisite to
> have a full knowledge and overview of a function before modifying it. Sophie

Yes i have tried to refrain from making changes that i dont fully understand
and the OOo stats dont give me enough guidance about.

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #32)
> Also I think it is a good attitude to realize that the past design of menu
> etc has been done by full time professionals, so that understanding of the
> choices they made, helps with preparing changes.

I do not believe that the design of the menu was done with that much of
understanding and was simply done to resemble microsoft office's menus. This
was the same for the toolbars.

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