[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #69 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #66)
> Why ? We have duplication for toolbars, why not in menu?

Where do we have duplication in the toolbars?

> When you open a new
> empty document with a new clean user profile, you have both
> sidebar/properties and formatting toolbar.

The sidebar is not open by default in a new clean user profile, so there isnt
duplication there. Users who prefer to use the sidebar for properties over the
formatting toolbar will likely disable the formatting toolbar because of this
duplication.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #67)
> just like us regarding Sort... (which have to get renamed, by the way).

I have asked Sophie about this but unfortunately she hasnt replied yet.

> So I would add this as the 11th commandment:
> "Thou shalt not have duplicates in menus." (to be added to the HIG?)

He said it was a sin, so you are making it a sin. ;)

> Regarding the issue: Can we solve the Print <Preview> problem by renaming
> the function?

It used to be called 'Page Preview' and i changed it to 'Print Preview' in 4.4.
Print Preview had a major benefit in the old MS Word days when the default view
wasnt a view that looked similar to now it was printed, which is what we use
today.

> Another solution would be to always show the preview before
> printing (would be weird however). We discussed this but I don't remember
> the outcome.

Alot of users are used to jumping into print preview before they open the print
dialog and the dialog also has a preview in it as well. I dont think it would
be a good idea to force users into a particular workflow for printing.

(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #68)
> in master / Writer the menu File > Templates > Manage opens the Form design
> toolbar

Works fine for me on master and i doubt reorganization entries in the menu xml
would affect how a function would work.

Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 3754474cdea72ebe7f09457ef82a5c3131d06b78
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86 at 45-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2015-06-13_07:55:37

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