[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658

--- Comment #11 from Christian Lehmann <christianw_lehmann at arcor.de> ---
Thanks for the detailed explanations. There are apparently more than one
problem hidden here:

Ad 1 and 2: In discussing the nature of "Hidden characters", it may seem that
we are arguing about words. Anyway, it may be helpful to distinguish two cases:
a) A string of characters is hidden in the sense that they cannot be seen at
the place where they are. The standard method of producing this effect would be
to choose white print on white background.
b) Part of the text is hidden in the sense that no space is provided to display
it. This is currently the effect of the feature "Hidden".
To my understanding, #a is a font effect, i.e. it is actually a typographic
modification of the font like italics etc. #b, on the contrary, is an option of
displaying the document in its entirety or just selected parts.
This is why I had suggested to list function #b in the 'View' menu. If I
understand you correctly, the reason you find this wrong is that the "hidden"
text is not only suppressed from the screen display, but also from the
printout. In this, our 'hidden' function would indeed differ from other options
under 'View' like 'Show comments' or 'Show Formatting marks'.

Ad 3: If the 'Hidden' feature can be applied to any component of the document,
from a single character via a paragraph and a table row up to an entire
section, then it should probably not be a feature in the submenu 'Format -
Character' and instead a separate item one level higher up in the hierarchy,
viz. in the 'Format' menu. Call it 'Hide text' or something like this.

Moreover: In my version of LO (7.0.3.1), the window in which you format a
paragraph looks differently if you choose 'Format - Paragraph' than if you
choose 'Styles - Paragraph Styles' and then modify the style of the paragraph
in question. This used not to be so, and to my mind, it is no enhancement. As
you say, it may be useful to set the font face of an entire paragraph without
having to mark ("select") the string of characters that it comprises.

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