[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 150276] Paragraph mark in rotated-character paragraph placed in middle of text

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Tue Aug 9 14:34:45 UTC 2022


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150276

--- Comment #8 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #7)
> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #6)
> Please note that you silently mix two things: paragraph direction, and
> character direction - into a single sentence, making the logic flaw not
> obvious.

That's possible, but... I was silently assuming horizontal-LTR paragraph
direction  in this bug report. Which indeed I shouldn't :-)  but my example is
about paragraphs which are all horizontal-LTR.

> "the paragraph-mark to appear at the place where the next character would
> appear" expectation must only apply to the *caret* - paragraph mark has
> nothing to do with this expectation.

Is that an actual design decision, or are you explaining your intuition? If
it's the former, can you post a relevant link?

> Paragraph mark indicates *the direction
> at which the next paragraph would appear* if you decide to create one. And
> the horizontal position (and correct upright glyph orientation, which is
> absent now!) of the mark indicates that: your next paragraph will appear
> below this paragraph, as in other "normal" horizontal paragraphs, no matter
> what *character rotation* it uses.

Ah, you bring up an interesting point: The _position_ of the mark vs the
orientation, or rotation, of the mark.

I disagree. I see the paragraph mark as a "shadow" extra character in the
paragraph. I do not expect it to indicate what you suggest.

> Now compare that to e.g. paragraphs in table cells, where you can set
> vertical orientation by modifying table cell's text orientation on Text Flow
> properties tab. That changes the position and the rotation of the paragraph
> mark, correctly.

But that also agrees with my intuition regarding the p-mark.

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