[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155834] Unnumbered entries do not move together with their main entry, when list's "move item up / down" commands are used

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155834

--- Comment #9 from Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #5)
> > Again: a list item is not a paragraph, it is a *set of paragraphs*.
> This does not match my understanding as a list being an attribute of the
> paragraph

This is completely technical implementation detail in Writer. This does not
match common sense (no one will think that "Of course, this is usually the most
time-consuming part." below constitutes a separate list item - which, e.g., may
have an own "done" mark; people will understand that all three paragraphs from
"Do the real work." till "Some more pseudo-deep thoughts on this..." constitute
a single list item, and discuss one step number two). And your perception also
does *not* match ODF, where a list like

  1. Create a plan.
  2. Do the real work.
     Of course, this is usually the most time-consuming part.
     Some more pseudo-deep thoughts on this...
  3. Report to the community.

will be

  <text:list>
   <text:list-item>
    <text:p>List item 1</text:p>
   </text:list-item>
   <text:list-item>
    <text:p>List item 2 paragraph 1</text:p>
    <text:p>List item 2 paragraph 2</text:p>
    <text:p>List item 2 paragraph 3</text:p>
   </text:list-item>
   <text:list-item>
    <text:p>List item 3</text:p>
   </text:list-item>
  </text:list>

All in all, you show exactly the problem that I ask to fix.

> > I don't know, maybe a kind of dotted rectangle around the whole current list
> > item (=several paragraphs) appearing dynamically when you enter a list, when
> > formatting marks are enabled ...
> Do you agree with the more subtle proposal of a checkbox "[x] Show label"
> under the list menu? On by default, off when backspace was pressed - or this
> item is unchecked.

Do you have a mockup?

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