[Bug 149407] Proposal for slight change in position and label of controls in the Position dialog for objects

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149407

--- Comment #29 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #28)
> (In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #26)
> > Telesto's mockup in comment 24 (attachment 193604 [details]) provides an
> > interesting alternative to the OP.
> 
> ... but still suffers from the problem I mentioned in comment #5 here and in
> bug 148593 comment 6:

It was more or less a partial mockup limited to arranging the Position Controls
as contrast to the suggestion of sdc.blanco. So yes it has the same flaw.

In principle I would agree with 'make it a coherent sentence' and "make a
grammatically correct sentence", but I fear the bar being to high because that
includes the sentence to be coherent in all (current and future) translations.
And that's likely mission impossible.  

> * What is "positioning from left"? That's not gramattically-valid English
> IIANM
The "From Left" isn't really self-explaining. Aligning Left doesn't allow an
offset. "From left" means, Left side (of defined area; for example Paragraph
Area) + Off-set. No idea why this category being needed at all. Some could
argue that "Left" + offset value = From Left internally, but without exposing
this in the dialog. 

And I have no idea why you aren't allowed to define off-set "From Center" or
"From Right" (I'm maybe overlooking something)

As wondering: is the category "From Left" actually "From Right" for RTL?

> * Left of what? Are positioning the paragraph's left edge or positioning it
> to the left of something?
Don't ask me where the defined area is actually located. The are highly
specific; and because the are specific the become technical. So even help is
using a technical description. It's not easy to understand for moderate user,
IMHO. I have no clue what will happen, even when reading the help; and when it
will produce the same result and in which cases it will differ. So my tendency
is stick with default area :-).

I'm rather visually orientated, so long technical descriptions are hard regards
 how well written

> * Offset of what, from what?
Offset from the (Left) alignment (going to the right). Offset in essence the
same as Indent, I think

> Re-laying-out of controls must also be accompanied by changing the labels
> and possibly the semantics to match them.
I agree. However having to consider all the dimensions at once is quite mind
boggling/ mind numbing.

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