[Libreoffice] minutes of tech steering call ...
michael.meeks at novell.com
Thu Aug 18 08:36:34 PDT 2011
+ Norbert, David, Rainer, Bjoern, Kendy, Kohei,
Caolan, Petr, Cedric, Lubos, Michael, Mitch
+ Completed Action Items:
+ get SmartArt interop. feature into master (Thorsten)
+ easy hacks - completion / fixing (Bjoern)
+ looks pretty: eg.
+ submit conference papers:
+ GSOC update - double-slot
+ what's next in writer
+ enable Kendy's Windows tinderbox again (Kendy)
+ ~done, master builds there nicely again
+ gnumake fallout still causing fun
+ promulgate pencil down dates (Cedric)
+ fix bogus / obsolete download DNS record (Thorsten)
+ moved the source tarballs to a better place.
+ Pending Action Items:
+ mail bugzilla query wrt. regression to dev list (Michael)
+ in-progress: script that downloads the git sources for you (Norbert)
+ submit conference paper: onegit / tinderbox (Norbert)
+ enable on-line updates for QA for dailies ... (Kendy)
+ dig up the SFLC AL2/LGPLv3+ header (Michael)
+ New extensions website: publish / tdf blog (Thorsten)
+ non-TDF branding technical question(s) (Thorsten)
* Agenda items
+ pending action items
+ ccache fun (Lubos)
+ enabled by default, unless --enable-symbols ?
+ can we get the cache size and adapt to that ?
AA: + decided: check for size of cache at configure default,
1Gb ok unless --enable-symbols, then 5Gb (Norbert)
+ gerrit update / demo (Bjoern / Norbert)
+ impressive piece of software
+ basically a web front-end to setup a git branch
+ log-in / no account required: openID
+ up-load ssh key to web interface
+ after that everything is do-able from the command-line
+ with e-mail notifications
+ each newbie push to the gerrit git branch is to a review queue
+ buildbots can run vs. that branch
+ submitters can push to proposal queue of gerrit.
+ as easy as ML if not easier
+ lots of things for us, are possible ...
+ patch submit flow - web/up-load to gerrit
+ cherry-pick by reviewer / close web interface.
+ Jenkins integration possible
+ builds can be triggered via git (hence gerrit) commits
AA: + get Bjoern setup with a vhost for gerrit (Thorsten / Christian)
AA: + setup a gerrit test repo (Bjoern)
+ needs a nice MPL/LGPLv3+ 'ack' as we create an account.
+ git commit hook over-complexity (Norbert)
+ removed doxygen check for now (over-complicated)
+ only checking for whitespace currently.
+ .po file commit editing on the fly
AA: - dangerous /should only be in translations if at all (Timar)
+ bug fixes - most annoying for 3.4.x
+ bikesheding ... endless thread, wait for concreteness.
+ gutting openssl for NSS wherever it is found is ok ?
+ agreed !
+ ideal work - easiest starter to fix is OOXML import encryption
AA: + poke Marc (Michael)
+ update template for (C) headers ... [Thorsten]
- add conflict markers and good.
+ GSOC update (Cedric)
+ coding almost done (by end of week)
+ ensure all students have pushed their code to master & is
+ evaluation to be done from 22nd - 26th.
+ Aug 25th
+ update your T-shirt size & address, or look silly !
+ Matus - nice gnumake / acceleration & misc. pieces
+ Xisco - python ported from java - going nicely, merging soon
+ Tibby - Visio stuff looking very sweet indeed
+ Miklos - nice RTF import filter in master, beautiful work
+ will enable filter as default & bin old filter
when flyframes are done & copy+paste tested
+ nightmares with importing into existing doc
with styles (the paste & file-insert cases)
AA: + check and enable new RTF import in master by default (Cedric)
+ Marco - lovely SVG export for impress, nearly better than flash
+ Timo - useful wikihelp to windows help conversion work
+ Anurag - lots of nasty issues with input bar, task unfortunately
much harder than anticipated
+ we hope to see these continue to be polished
AA: + and look forward to subsidising students' trips
to LibOCon Paris.
+ release engineering (Petr)
+ 3.3.5 timeline
+ RC1 - deadline beginning of October
+ the last ever (planned) bug-fix release of 3.3.x
+ 3.4.3 status
+ up-loading rc1 / being pushed to mirrors
+ pleasing reduction of most annoying bug count to 30
+ hoping for fewer commits post rc1
+ QA pieces (Rainer)
+ can we close the mailmerge tracker ? (or de-most-annoying it)
AA: + yes: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34184 (Rainer)
+ bug voting bug (uh?)
+ should we have the voting feature at all ?
+ can be useful for new hackers wanting to find things (Kohei)
+ general consensus against it
+ seeing crash-reporter duplicates can help (Bjoern)
+ potential setup for dissappointment wrt. unrealistic bugs (Norbert)
+ unreliable metric, vote and metric gaming already seen.
AA: + close wontfix please (Rainer)
+ co-ordination with SUSE QA guy
+ no full-time SUSE QA bug triage guy (from now)
+ YiFan working on QA tooling etc.
+ wiki, statistics: pretty picture at:
+ interesting graphs - trends - more graphs.
+ OO.o bugzilla activity descending
+ 60 bug changes per day one year ago,
+ currently 50-100 bug changes per day
+ higher activity than OO.o had
AA: + up-load a graph of comparative bugzilla activity (Rainer)
+ helpful bugzilla links:
+ as workarounds to existing situation
+ research ongoing into our own bugzilla
+ currently not vast problems with sticking with it.
+ Other business
+ updating (non-default/official) extensions in 3.4.x branch ? (Petr)
+ breaks feature freeze, extreme ambivalence
+ no objections to updating, why are they there in
the 1st place (Caolan)
+ extensions: can do odd things, chart bug only with
report builder enabled - concerning (Kohei)
+ after rc1 - so not in favour for now (Kendy)
+ perhaps it affects Rene (not here)
+ resolved: allow it on libreoffice-3-4 branch (post
3.4.3) if people really, really are not using them (Bjoern)
+ 3.4.3 password protection problem (Norbert)
+ 3.5.x uses stronger encryption, and files cannot be
opened in 3.4.3 with terribly unhelpful message
AA: + need to look into it for 3.4.next (Caolan)
+ improve the error dialog at least
michael.meeks at novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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