minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Feb 16 09:12:05 PST 2012
+ Rainer, Stephan, Eike, David, Mitch, Michael, Lionel
Kendy, Bjoern, Cedric, Caolan, Michael S, Thorsten,
* Completed Action Items
+ branch 'build', 'bootstrap' as libreoffice-3-5 or sim.,
and wipe master with a helpful link (Michael S)
+ talk to Michael S afterwards (Michael M)
+ come up with bug assignment proposal (Rainer/Bjoern/Petr)
+ update the wiki bug filing guidelines wrt. ~ignore apache issues (Rainer)
+ more bibisect evangelism on the QA mailing list (Bjoern)
+ request to re-fix top-level 'make check' to build code first (Norbert)
* Pending Action Items
+ [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
+ sysadmin promised action, kendy chasing ...
+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
+ needs fd.o admin help, bug for that created, Tollef on vacation
+ disable bundling of C++ stdlib in 3.5.1 & see how it goes (Petr)
* Action Items review
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.5.0 release retrospective
+ went smoothly vs. 3.4.0, biggest problems with Beta 0
+ many annoying bugs fixed but
+ 'most annoying' not nominated until rather too late.
+ very few blockers arrived before release.
+ too soon to judge how good it is.
+ misc. annoyances wrt. 'rc3' string showing up in final.
+ new numbering scheme planned for 3.5.1
+ RC1 freeze & branch libreoffice-3-5-1 on Monday/Tuesday
+ tripple approval for 3.5.1 after that +
+ 1 week later RC2 => final.
+ large numbers of bug fixes queued up here already
+ three weeks from now: March 5th RC1 deadline
+ encouraging to see lots of fixes going in 'for free'
* thread-safety / deadlock issue in 3.5.0 (Stephan)
+ legacy libstdc++ stuff probably not thread-safe
+ awaiting feedback from Dave.
+ removing stdlibs is prolly the workaround
* Poor install flow / JRE issue (Michael)
+ clobber the context patch on the list
AA: + finding a better way for 3.5.1 if possible (Stephan)
* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ we have three weeks (until March 9th) to apply as an org.
+ already have a wiki page from last year's
+ need a good ideas page, of things people want to hack on
+ tasks need good evaluation criteria
* QA update (Rainer)
+ Windows - missing master builds issue
+ switch fast win32 tinderbox back to master post 3.5.1 (Kendy)
+ hopefully that will address this
+ 3.4.6 - quite a lot of fixes
+ no-one marking bugs as most annoying 3.4
+ fine to keep it like that
+ can we close 3.4 most annoying bug ?
+ close it after 3.4.6 (Petr)
+ check for missing issues on 3.5 most annoying
+ page border feature
+ has been discussed in September 2011; ux-advise etc.
+ also discussed in openoffice times
+ in daily builds, betas/rc's etc. for months
+ "sending mail is much easier than reading mail" (Lionel)
+ inevitable that for any given (noticeable) feature
this will happen (Thorsten)
+ general approval
+ concern to avoid mass changes
AA: + adopt the new proposal without the mass changes (Rainer)
which is this:
UNCONFIRMED/NEEDSINFO: incomplete bugs that have not yet been
checked to be completely triaged to the point that a developer can
start working on it
NEW regardless of assignee: confirmed/triaged bugs waiting for a
developer to pick up (preferably the one it is assigned, or
better: CC'ed, to)
ASSIGNED bugs: bugs a developer has accepted and intends to work on
* FOSDEM dev-room slide aggregation (Stephan)
+ get links to FOSDEM slides into the wiki (All)
AA: + find eager volunteer to prettify / chronologically arrange /
thumbnail / cleanup the wiki page (Michael)
* ODF issues (Michael Stahl)
+ use the whiteboard for issues related to ODF documented here:
AA: + need to add some blurb fdo#44498 to release note (Petr)
* gerrit bits (Bjoern)
+ new hardware coming on-line for this service thanks to Robert Einsle
AA: + remind Michael wrt. the bug for access (Bjoern) [ fdo#46132 ]
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 44 (of 132) open, last weeks: 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
33% 33%, 30%, 30%, 28%, 32%
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 96(+7) bugs open of 330 (+5) total
* Component count net *
+ Writer - 39 (+3)
+ Drawing - 10 (+5)
+ LibreOffice - 10 (+1)
+ Presentation - 8 (+0)
+ Spreadsheet - 7 (+0)
+ Database - 5 (-2)
+ Basic - 5 (+1)
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