minutes of ESC call ...

[Michael Meeks]

* Present
	+ Rainer, Stephan, Eike, David, Mitch, Michael, Lionel
	  Kendy, Bjoern, Cedric, Caolan, Michael S, Thorsten,
	  Petr, Kohei

* Completed Action Items
	+ branch 'build', 'bootstrap' as libreoffice-3-5 or sim.,
	  and wipe master with a helpful link (Michael S)
		+ talk to Michael S afterwards (Michael M)
	+ come up with bug assignment proposal (Rainer/Bjoern/Petr)
	+ update the wiki bug filing guidelines wrt. ~ignore apache issues (Rainer)
	+ more bibisect evangelism on the QA mailing list (Bjoern)
	+ request to re-fix top-level 'make check' to build code first (Norbert)

* Pending Action Items
	+ [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
		+ sysadmin promised action, kendy chasing ...
	+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
            + needs fd.o admin help, bug for that created, Tollef on vacation
            + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45354
	+ disable bundling of C++ stdlib in 3.5.1 & see how it goes (Petr)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.5.0 release retrospective
		+ went smoothly vs. 3.4.0, biggest problems with Beta 0
		+ many annoying bugs fixed but
			+ 'most annoying' not nominated until rather too late.
		+ very few blockers arrived before release.
		+ too soon to judge how good it is.
		+ misc. annoyances wrt. 'rc3' string showing up in final.
			+ new numbering scheme planned for 3.5.1
	+ 3.5.1
		+ RC1 freeze & branch libreoffice-3-5-1 on Monday/Tuesday
			+ tripple approval for 3.5.1 after that +
			+ 1 week later RC2 => final.
		+ large numbers of bug fixes queued up here already
	+ 3.4.6
		+ three weeks from now: March 5th RC1 deadline
		+ encouraging to see lots of fixes going in 'for free'

* thread-safety / deadlock issue in 3.5.0 (Stephan)
	+ legacy libstdc++ stuff probably not thread-safe
		+ awaiting feedback from Dave.
	+ removing stdlibs is prolly the workaround

* Poor install flow / JRE issue (Michael)
	+ clobber the context patch on the list
AA:	+ finding a better way for 3.5.1 if possible (Stephan)

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ we have three weeks (until March 9th) to apply as an org.
		+ already have a wiki page from last year's
	+ need a good ideas page, of things people want to hack on
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
	+ tasks need good evaluation criteria

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ Windows - missing master builds issue
		+ switch fast win32 tinderbox back to master post 3.5.1 (Kendy)
		+ hopefully that will address this
	+ 3.4.6 - quite a lot of fixes
		+ no-one marking bugs as most annoying 3.4
			+ fine to keep it like that
		+ can we close 3.4 most annoying bug ?
			+ close it after 3.4.6 (Petr)
		+ check for missing issues on 3.5 most annoying
	+ page border feature
		+ has been discussed in September 2011; ux-advise etc.
			+ also discussed in openoffice times
		+ in daily builds, betas/rc's etc. for months
		+ "sending mail is much easier than reading mail" (Lionel)
		+ inevitable that for any given (noticeable) feature
		  this will happen (Thorsten)
	+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/ChangingTheBugStateMeanings
		+ general approval
		+ concern to avoid mass changes
AA:		+ adopt the new proposal without the mass changes (Rainer)

	which is this:

    UNCONFIRMED/NEEDSINFO: incomplete bugs that have not yet been
    checked to be completely triaged to the point that a developer can
    start working on it

    NEW regardless of assignee: confirmed/triaged bugs waiting for a
    developer to pick up (preferably the one it is assigned, or
    better: CC'ed, to)

    ASSIGNED bugs: bugs a developer has accepted and intends to work on

* FOSDEM dev-room slide aggregation (Stephan)
	+ get links to FOSDEM slides into the wiki (All)
	  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2012
AA:	+ find eager volunteer to prettify / chronologically arrange /
	  thumbnail / cleanup the wiki page (Michael)

* ODF issues (Michael Stahl)
	+ use the whiteboard for issues related to ODF documented here:
		+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage
AA:	+ need to add some blurb fdo#44498 to release note (Petr)

* gerrit bits (Bjoern)
	+ new hardware coming on-line for this service thanks to Robert Einsle
AA:	+ remind Michael wrt. the bug for access (Bjoern) [ fdo#46132 ]

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 44 (of 132) open, last weeks: 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
	        33%                      33%,    30%,    30%,   28%,   32%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
		+ 96(+7) bugs open of 330 (+5) total
	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 39 (+3)
	+ Drawing      - 10 (+5)
	+ LibreOffice  - 10 (+1)
	+ Presentation - 8  (+0)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 7  (+0)
	+ Database     - 5  (-2)
	+ Basic        - 5  (+1)

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