[Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] 3.5.0 QA ... from BHS 1 to BHS 2
oolst at nouenoff.nl
Thu Jan 26 04:22:37 PST 2012
Petr Mladek wrote (25-01-12 10:57)
> Please, look at
I recognise that one - you showed it in Paris and we discussed it. See
my slide #23 ;-)
> => developers spend a lot of time on bug fixing
> Here are the commit statistics from weeks between 3.4.0-beta1 and
great data. also to point others to. However not so easy to interpreted.
Because much the remaining 90 + % of the commits will be related to
improving building, code etc etc. and indeed:
> Note that the real numbers are higher because developers sometimes do
> not mention the fixed bug number in commit messages.
> Anyway, it shows that developers fix bugs all the time. They do not
> spend months working only on features!
that is why we work to make happen that, over time, the ratio
'spent on features' / 'spent on bug fixing'
can increase (of course without loosing on quality).
>> - 45068 Update from 3.4.4 on Win not possible without ...
> => The problem was that it was hidden in the swamp of other bugs and
> newer assigned to a developer who could look at it
that is what I say: as for now we do not always get important bugs
visible in time - although they may well be reported.
>> - 41054 Saving problem ods with new sheets
> => again the same problem with hidden bug in the swamp
indeed, the same problem
>> - 39118 Charts do not update
> => there were more important bugs that needed to be fixed before
I won't argue that. But also here the process of getting attention in
time is not optimal
> Kohei, Markus, and Eike are excellent guys. They really take care about
> bug reports and fix one after each other. I sometimes can't belief how
> many bugs they fix every day.
I really love those guys :-) , extremely appreciate all they do, and
have great confidence in all good that they do now and even will bring
more in the future.
> We are very careful about backporting fixes because we do not want
> regressions. It means that it is a bit painful and time consuming. We
> need a good balance here.
> I do not say that our processes are perfect. They can be surely
> improved. [...]
and we work on that, as you too explain in the following:
> My feeling is:
> + people still do not have correct expectations about the .0 release;
> I am afraid that many people still expect that it should be perfect
will start working on that for the 3.5.0
> Otherwise, I hear relatively positive feedback about 3.5.0 betas and
> rcs. I feel that we are in much better situation than with 3.4.0.
I fully agree here. Still - and that was what I tried to explain, and
what you confirmed by the examples - we have to be aware that our
process is not yet good enough.
Thanks for your answer and insight,
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