minutes of ESC call ...
michael at ximian.com
Thu Mar 1 10:00:00 PST 2012
+ Norbert, Eike, Stephan, David, Bjoern, Caolan, Rainer
Andras, Markus, Fridrich, Michael, Thorsten, Cedric,
Petr, Michael S, Kohei
* Completed Action Items
+ dig out more Windows 3.5.0 installation bugs (Rainer)
+ interacting / pending configmgr fix in 3.5.1
+ somewhat overrated problem
+ adopt the new bug state / meanings proposal without the mass changes (Rainer)
+ it is working now.
+ please send Michael nominations for new ESC members for proposal
& vote next week (All)
* Pending Action Items
+ [no progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
+ accelerate external movement of Linux build hardware (Kendy)
+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
+ [ongoing] respond in the gerrit bug fdo#44498 with some rational (Bjoern)
+ call today on the topic
* Action Items review
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ deadline slipped one day March 6th RC1 deadline
+ 3.5.1 release bits / status
+ RC1 was out Wednesday, want a weekend for QA to test
+ tag for RC2 on Monday 5th
+ stick with a 3 week cycle for 3.5.2 to catch up
+ slightly nervous about volume of fixing in 3.5.1 RC2
+ lots of good bug fixes going in there
+ libxml status (M.Stahl heroism appreciated)
+ go back to system libxml on Mac, PPC looks much better
* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ we have one week (until March 9th) to apply as an org.
+ Michael S. again creating them
+ filed application on Google / Melange
+ Cedric / Fridrich co-administrators
+ happy to have more admins etc.
+ drastic action / brainstorming on ideas required
Add these tasks to the wiki
AA: + add graphical conditional formatting task (Kohei)
AA: + Publisher importer + one other (Fridrich)
AA: + wrapper for MS compiler for autotools usage (Norbert)
AA: + layout / toolkit conversion task (Caolan)
AA: + calc filters performance improvements (Kohei & Markus)
AA: + l/strace-alike for UNO (Stephan)
AA: + table styles (Cedric)
AA: + bunch of ideas / slide-show re-work etc. (Thorsten)
AA: + refactor god objects (Bjoern)
AA: + multi-user / telepathy / co-editing (Eike)
AA: + fwd. Eike Svante's proposal (Thorsen)
AA: + better template translation (Michael)
AA: + add specific writer / layout unit test task (Cedric / Michael S.)
* ESC composition
+ Lionel Elie Mamane (Individual)
+ Markus Mohrhard (Individual)
+ Stephan Bergmann (RedHat)
+ no objections whatsoever => adopted
AA: + take to the board (Thorsten)
* un-realistic attitude wrt. exceptions and bloat ... (Sberg)
+ punt to next time ...
* QA update (Rainer)
+ nothing to report - business as usual
* Pretty pictures of bug trends ...
+ consensus that writer has very few unit tests
+ and the largest need for them
+ added macros test for writer (Markus)
+ can also test layout code
+ Miklos started to write RTF test cases
+ anything that stops people writing unit tests ?
+ Cedric / Michael blocked huge bug stack to fix
+ random writer regression samples, many from 3.3 to 3.4 (Bjoern)
+ the historic big merge issue ? / quality of what was merged ?
+ yet few remembered here ...
+ regressions - lots of RTF / DOCX filter related bugs
+ new / immature / but much improved code there
+ again potential / fixed duplicate / merge issues
+ writer fundamentally harder to test than calc
+ layout dumping of XML to plain text
+ built-in / hidden export filter
+ good to run across lots of files
+ lots of regression cases related to layout
+ so export to text is not enough
+ SUSE interns currently working on 'real' unit tests for writer.
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 52 (of 145) open last weeks: 49/140, 44/132, 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
36% 35%, 33%, 33%, 30%, 30%, 28%, 32%
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 109(+6) bugs open of 359(+16) total
* Component count net *
+ Writer - 47 (+4)
+ Drawing - 10 (+0)
+ LibreOffice - 10 (+0)
+ Presentation - 10 (+1)
+ Spreadsheet - 7 (-3)
+ Database - 6 (+1)
+ Basic - 3 (+0)
* Graph attached ...
michael.meeks at suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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