minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Feb 7 08:04:48 PST 2013

* Present
	+ Thorsten, Eike, David, Joel, Markus, Michael M, Norbert,
	  Mirek, Andras, Kendy, Petr, Stephan, Lionel, Caolan,
	  Fridrich, Florian, Tor

* Completed Action Items
	+ get tshirts / hoodies printed (kendy)
	+ Presenter console patches 4-0 backport (Ahmad)
		+ turns out it was already done
	+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
		+ obsolete - a new GSOC is coming soon ...
	+ regression catching on tinderbox figure out time-out issues (Markus)
		+ python not capable of doing it, switching to C++ instead
	+ completed generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
AI:		+ could we use it for tinderbox / daily builds first ? (Petr)
	+ investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Tor)
		+ implemented for Mac.
	+ tweak the configure defaults (Norbert + Tor)
	    	+ no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
	+ investigate Samba related bugs (Joel)
		+ fixed already, will be in 4.0.1
	+ STLPort removal - release-note: Document dropping the DLL and the
          VS run-time on the system in the release-notes (Fridrich)
		+ German translators have special data for Duden too (nice!)
	+ MySQL connector - can/will/where to ship it (Lionel)
		+ just needs to be re-compiled vs. not having stlport
		+ needs a volunteer to do that.

* Pending Action Items
	+ Update gsoc ideas page before FOSDEM
	  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
		+ everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
	+ find person who can write and add off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
	+ create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern)
	+ Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
	+ Investigate native build/env scripts for SDK (Bjoern)
	+ full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
     	  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
	     	+ pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
	+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
	+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
	+ Ubuntu font licensing questions, clarify at Canonical (Bjoern)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 4.0 status / update ...
	    	+ updated on-line help pending fixing server load issues & up-load
		+ out; thanks to everyone for their hard work !
	+ 4.0.1 rc1 commit deadline 1.5 weeks out: Monday Feb 18
	+ 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 1 month out: Monday Mar 18
	+ 4.1 new features:
		+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1
	+ 4.1 MAB (currently just one...)
		+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Server load / status (Florian)
	+ main libreoffice website migrated to new server
		+ after significant tweaking - is coping nicely with the load
	+ thanks to Cloph, Alex, Florian for hand-holding the server.

* FOSDEM update & thanks !
	+ dev-room (Markus)
		+ went well, very few talks over-ran, despite 20min talks
		+ finished on time 5:20
		+ several positive responses from having more shorter talks
		  instead of fewer longer ones.
		+ thanks to Fridrich for taking over Kendy's MINGW talk
		+ many thanks to Markus for his hard work organising the programme
	+ booth report (Thorsten)
		+ all around wonderful, really lots of people - around 20x
		  guys from the project helping out at/around the booth
		+ Cor's very nice ribbon legend, and fine banner
		+ very extensive swag give-aways from Kendy ... running out
		  of space on the tables to put anything else: and stack of
		  boxes nearby.
		+ Thanks to all who helped out.

* UX input (Mirek)
	+ 4.0/4.x branding
		+ E-mail voting update
		+ google-docs document where this takes place, closing on Saturday
		+ partly depends on Alex.
		  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsGS28t6YMF3dHFrTm9hMzZVNk9hNEZMN0NSbV9ZbXc#gid=0
	+ theme colors / color-picker
		+ might we adopt themes ?
		+ yes - but no-one working on this just now.
	+ ux-advise / possible easy-hacks ...
		+ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2013-February/001817.html
AI:		+ will help out giving code pointers for some bugs (Kendy)

* un-publishing interface in 4.0.1 (Kohei / Stephan)
	+ concern about doing that in a micro release.
	+ resolved on the mailing list.

* back-port Mac signing for 4.0.1 (Norbert / Tor)
	+ requires some tweaked XCode version / setup &
	  getting certificates into the keychain for signing
AI:	+ review them for the -4-0 branch (Norbert / Thorsten?)
	+ is it possible to do that without installing full XCode ? (Norbert)
		+ yes, done in the Makefile on the command-line (Tor)

* Android remote signing for 4.0 (Thorsten)
	+ either use a key that expires in a year, or
	  use self-signed certificates - with some 20yrs of validity
		+ in absence of better guesses - use self-signing to more
		  easily push updates.
	+ fiddling with tag / pushing from -4-0 branch.

* Hard Hacks:
	+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
		+ QA meeting tomorrow to update these.
		+ split between 3.6.x and 4.0.x

* QA update (Joel)
	+ need to triage / unwind 3.5 MAB's ...
		+ hopefully by next week be able to migrate those
	+ QA going smoothly ...
		+ a couple of new people on QA / chat recently
		+ active team is growing - which is encouraging
	+ ongoing discussion about whether to close long-term
	  un-responsive NEEDINFO bugs ...
		+ tentative proposal so far:
			reminder after ~6 months of no response.
			and a month after -> INVALID
		+ no developers spoke up wrt. bug-spam for closing /
		  reminding in issues.
		+ final outcome up to the QA team to decide
		  themselves of course.
    	+ help is needed with triagging the following bugs:
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&email1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.org&product=LibreOffice&list_id=221457
	+ focusing on stopping 4.0 bugs getting out of hand via triage:
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
	+ 16 (of 91) older 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21
	     18%            22%   22%   14%   22%   27%   32%  26%   29%   35%   29%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 44 (of 175) older 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153
	     25%             25%    25%    24%     22%   23%    21%    22%    21%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 47 (of 264) older 47/264 48/265 49/266 49/266 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279
	     18%             18%    18%    18%    18%    19%    20%    22%    23%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
	+ 47 (of 131) older 45/126 42/117 40/114 43/110
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 254(+11) bugs open of 1218(+30) total

	* ~Component   count net *
	+ Writer       - 88 (-1)
	+ Presentation - 28 (+3)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 22 (+0)
	+ Database     - 21 (+2)
	+ Crashes      - 20 (+5)
	+ LibreOffice  - 17 (-1)
	+ Drawing      - 15 (+1)
	+ Borders      - 11 (+0)
	+ Migration    - 5  (+0)
	+ Basic        - 4  (+2)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
	+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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