LO / Firebird DB Integration
jp at ledure.be
Mon Jun 24 12:38:11 PDT 2013
> I do not see any improvement with having to bundle hsqldb vs. having to bundle firebird.
If Firebird becomes the default database in Base, it will not be a
matter of bundling either HSQLDB or Firebird, but of bundling _both_ !
Otherwise what about existing legacy databases ?
> The main motivation for the switch was getting rid of java
AFAIK the main issue in using a HSQLDB database embedded in the .odb
file is that, when LO crashes, the chance is big that the database is
destroyed: the recovery process does not recover that part of the file.
Will it still be the case with an embedded Firebird database ?
In that context I invite interested people to read a.o. the thread
published last monday on
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=62419 by DACM.
> Unfortunately, the devs remain preoccupied with the embedded database
> concept based on a default database engine. They're literally wasting
> the summer trying to shoe-horn Firebird into Base as the default in
> order to achieve yet another, single-file database (.odb), much like
> we have today with HSQLDB. They don't seem to understand or
> acknowledge that the user community has shelved the concept because it
> is inherently unreliable (as confirmed by Microsoft
> We've also moved beyond the idea of a default database with Base. This
> actually free's the devs to eliminate internal Java dependencies from
> the entire LibO/AOO code-base, perhaps with the exception of the hooks
> necessary for external JDBC support.
Have users been enough involved in the debate so far ?
Thanks for your feedbacks.
On 24/06/2013 16:19, Andrzej J. R. Hunt wrote:
> On 24/06/13 12:25, David Tardon wrote:
>> If this is the current option, could we please consider the possibility
>> to drop the whole idea and just stay with hsqldb? With my distro hat on,
>> I do not see any improvement with having to bundle hsqldb vs. having to
>> bundle firebird.
> The main motivation for the switch was (another step in) getting rid of
> java (at least for me personally it is, and AFAICS for most other people
> too), and not the bundling of a db. And there appear to be solutions to
> allow reliable use of external firebird with various ICUs (see mails
> from Lionel/Michael) -- so either way firebird still makes the most
> sense to me.
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