minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Oct 3 08:58:34 PDT 2013
+ Tibby, David, Adam, Caolan, Cedric, Kendy, Kohei, Markus, Michael M,
Tsahi, Cloph, Robinson, Andras, Ahmad
* Completed Action Items:
+ setup tb3 repo on gerrit (Bjoern)
+ mail everyone wrt. instructions on how to un-break MSVC 2012 wrt. XP (Markus)
+ attempt export from Coverity categories of non-security critical bugs (Caolan)
[ sent as CSV to the mailing list, nice to have a better way still ]
+ take German public holiday ...
* Pending Action Items:
+ find better way to export from Coverity categories of non-security critical bugs (Caolan)
+ push new default templates in & fix if necessary (Ahmad)
[ Mirek had concerns wrt. pushing these to master, need to vote on it ]
AI: if no vote is setup in a week, push anyway (Mirek, Ahmad)
+ switch to 10.8 baseline for Mac / 64bit (Norbert)
+ setup infrastructure to build bibisect repos (Cloph / Bjoern / Norbert)
+ CC all developers' mailing list on all the easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ change wiki page to eliminate proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ propose different name for proposed easy hacks (Markus)
+ produce a VM for the load / crash regressions (Cloph / Markus)
+ partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
+ produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
+ transition and automate this inside a VM for Cloph (Lionel)
+ create a script that counts bug commenters stats for minor
release update PR (Bjoern)
+ send a mail to libreoffice user list for each "API CHANGE" commit (unassigned)
- as discussed in Stephans UNO API talk
[ Markus prefer to have a new script that we plug in ] (Bjoern/Stephan)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.1.2 RC3 status
+ on the mirror network
+ pending press release / announce.
AI: + poke marketing / PR for announce (Cloph)
+ 4.0.6 RC1 - deadline was Monday (? ...
+ on the mirror network; 4.0.6 built with 10.6 baseline
+ stand-in for Norbert, RC1 is not compatible with 10.4 but RC2 will be
+ 4.1.3 RC1 - deadline next Monday.
* GSOC round-up / summary (Cedric)
+ sadly had to fail 2x students
+ all others did a great job, have pushed their code to Melange
+ everything green on the administrative side.
+ questionable merit of passing border-line people at the mid-term
+ Cedric still waiting for couple of lines summary / update from each student.
* Stopping the BSA from auto-setting 'regression' keyword (Markus)
+ quality of 'regression' bugs has declined significantly, too many
unconfirmed/needinfo bugs for calc.
+ bit de-motivating, to see 30% of bugs in needinfo -> because not a regression
+ in favour of removing it (Kohei)
+ used to have a special query, to pick up bugs with 'regression' keyword
+ # of bugs with 'regression' was approaching # of open calc bugs many in error.
+ a QA person should have looked at it before it is marked.
+ nice if BSA - make these suggestions - might be a regression, but not
pollute the tags, QA person has to confirm it is (Robinson)
=> not making searches unusable.
AI: + ask Rob to turn 'regression' status off (Robinson)
* Conference round
+ great to meet everyone, and attach faces to name (Adam)
+ enjoyed hackathon & presentations
+ relaxing & casual atmosphere & diverse attendance (Kohei)
+ v. motivating to all be together (Robinson)
+ concern wrt. conf. timing - to get more students there,
need a better timeline, and travel pre-approval / budget (Michael, Caolan)
+ ideally announce @ end of 1 conf. where the next will be.
+ like to see the call for next conf. locations to start ASAP.
* QA update (Robinson)
+121 -97 (+24 overall) [ conference week ]
many thanks to the top five bug squashers:
Samuel M. 9
Markus Mohrhard 7
+ Bibisected regressions waiting to be addressed (some older than 1 year)
+ 50x bugs there, some bibisected to non-useful places (before time began eg.) (Michael)
+ if there is a dead-end need to annotate / get more feedback (Robinson)
+ Private/secure space and policy for large/confidential files needed for bug repro? (Robinson)
+ difficulty of getting large documents up-loaded & exchanged - bugzilla rejects it
+ often ask to have document paired down for fixing etc.
+ currently no structure.
+ what should our policy be ? store on servers ? or ... web-upload ?
AI: + ask Florian for a minimal / simple solution larger docs (Robinson)
+ either large, or (more) confidential
+ something like pastebin (but private) for doc submission.
* Bibisect & daily builds
+ do we have windows bibisect daily builds ?
+ who has access to the daily builds / status on the Mac tinderbox builds
+ pending Norbert's return.
* QA stats:
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 4/10 2/8 1/6 1/6 2/6 5/6 5/6 6/6 7/7 2/2 2/2 1/1
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 17/99 15/96 14/93 12/91 14/91 17/89 15/85 15/81 13/77 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52
17% 16% 15% 13% 15% 19% 18% 19% 17% 12% 17% 5% 14%
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 58/198 56/195 54/193 55/194 52/183 50/180 52/180 44/171 32/157 14/138 13/137
29% 29% 28% 29% 28% 28% 29% 26% 20% 10% 9%
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 35/143 34/142 34/141 34/140 35/140 36/167 37/137 41/137 33/128 33/125 34/124
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 381(+7) bugs open of 2050(+16) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 107 (+3)
Spreadsheet - 53 (-1)
Libreoffice - 46 (+0)
Presentation - 32 (+1)
Crashes - 28 (+1)
Database - 23 (+1)
Borders - 17 (+0)
Drawing - 17 (-1)
BASIC - 4 (+2)
Migration - 3 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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