minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Oct 31 16:48:03 CET 2013

* Present:
    + Christian, Eike, David, Stephan, Adam, Andras, Kohei, Markus, Kendy,
      Michael M, Michael S., Miklos, Norbert

* Completed Action Items:
    + poke Matus wrt. callgrind / performance VM (Michael)
    + Include new C* font google replacements into vanilla install (Caolan)
    + draw bugzilla migration threads together & propose funding to the board (Robinson)
    [ migration seems to be ongoing thanks to Thorsten / Tollef ]
    + produce a VM for the load / crash regressions (Cloph / Markus)
        [ setup, and running the tests - quite a few false positives,
          need to make it public. Running the second batch of tests ]
        http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/7cd77d5cb0b6fd3343f2703c73e2dc4b65fc0e9e/
        The interesting files are crashlog.txt if it is there.
        Encourage people with time -> mid compile or whatever to take
        a file & fix it. Quite a few string-length assertions firing now.
        40-50 to address in 4.2 / master. ]
    + test and get backtraces for Java issue on Maverick (Norbert)
        [ have to re-install Java after upgrade, the OS/prompt dialog
          can cause a crash. The solution - not publish wiki-publisher
          on Mac. The wiki-publisher, as soon as you type in writer
          Java is instantiated on Mac. Wikipublisher brings a menu entry
          from file->send->... when you type we instantiate all the menus
          so Mac can decided if there is a shortcut ... (sberg)
          Should we remove wiki-publisher completely ? (Michael)
             + just for Mac is enough for now (Sberg) ]

* Pending Action Items:
    + New templates (Ahmad)
        [ work in progress hard-coding templates as code ]
    + produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
        [ waiting for details on what should be installed ]
    + partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
        [ started, need to work on script to split it down ]
    + get setup wrt. mobile app-store access (Cloph / Thorsten)
        [ in progress around 4.1.3, pending Thorsten overcoming some
          Android remote build problems with all langs ]
    + poke people around FOSDEM, and get submission details from Italo (Kendy)
        [ pending reply from Italo ]

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 4.1.3 status
       + confusion again wrt. communication, now scheduled for tomorrow morning.
    + 4.2 Alpha 1 release planned for Monday ...
       + Feature freeze is Nov 18th.
    + GSOC / Android & iOS remote control releases from master update
       + credentials setup, iOS pending input from Thorsten
    + OpenCL functions & feature freeze
       + not concerned wrt. continuing development if not enabled by default

* New Keynote import filter (David)
    + first version integrated into LibreOffice
    + https://plus.google.com/photos/109896341870720226179/albums/5940508193610436897/5940508196458171922?pid=5940508196458171922&oid=109896341870720226179
    + supports text, shapes, images
    + missing tables, formatting, comments etc.
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=libetonyek.git;a=blob;f=FEATURES
AI: + create mirror of libetonyek on freedesktop (Michael)


* New commit access:
    + Marcos Souza - doing some good work (Norbert)
       + will be at the hack-fest.
    + Ray - doing good openCL work (Kohei)
AI:    + add ijsung.


* 'UniString' is truly dead ? (Caolan)
    + still get the occasional StringLen class around the place, and a few
      legacy 64k limits are around with 16bit indexes into strings etc.
    + does that finally fix the 64k limit on paragraphs ? (Michael)
        - nearly done, but not got to that yet (Caolan)
    + lots of work, and a great outcome - thanks to all that helped,
AI:     + ask Noel Grandin to blog about it (Caolan)


* solver going away (Michael S)
    https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6515/
    + will push when finished building in gerrit.
    + instdir vs. instsetoo_.. tab completion pain (Michael)
       + need to get workdir & instdir combined (Stephan)
          + avoiding ORIGIN problems & LD_LIBRARY_PATH horrors during build
          + perhaps move instdir under workdir ?
          + could we use absolute paths ? (Michael S)
              + path from instdir -> workdir is always fixed (Michael S)
              + just an idea, easy sol'n make it a subdir of workdir (Stephan)
    + want to remove INPATH [ eg. unxlngi6.pro ] (Michael S)
       + except for cross-compilation with two inpaths
          + use two different paths ?


* Google C* font replacements / update (Caolan)
    + we should back-port to 4.1.x
       + would be a good plan, but no time to get to it yet.
AI:    + already looking into that (Caolan)


* Certification progress (Kendy)
    + worth re-running the statistics of top bug fixers & see if
      there are new names.
       + script - sorts by number of bugs fixed.
    + what about people who implemented features ? eg. GSOC (Michael)
       + critera - timespan, should be longer than one GSOC.
AI: + re-run the certification script (Kendy)


* Freiburg Hack-fest - * This Saturday * (in Frieburg !)
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Freiburg2013
    + 23 people signed up so far - starting November 1st.


* QA update (Robinson)


   + a number of need_advice bugs whiteboard category
     + created a link / query on useful queries page:
         + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Useful_Queries
     + developer help appreciated.
         + will bring one up each week (Robinson)


  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +132    -344    (-212 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators  253 [ closing stale NEEDINFOs ]
        Maxim               16
        Caolán McNamara      8
        Joel Madero          7
        Cor Nouws            7
        Jean-Baptiste Faure  5
        Stephan Bergmann     4
        tommy27              4
        Guillaume Desmottes  3
        Julien Nabet         3


* QA stats:


* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 5/15 5/14 4/13 6/13 4/10 2/8 1/6 1/6 2/6 5/6 5/6 6/6 7/7 2/2
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675


* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 28/116 21/106 20/103 18/100 17/99 15/96 14/93 12/91 14/91 17/89
     24%    20%    19%    18%    17%   16%   15%   13%   15%   19%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1


* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 54/200 55/200 57/200 56/198 58/198 56/195 54/193 55/194 52/183
     27%    28%    29%    29%    29%    29%    28%    29%    28%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1


* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 49/158 40/148 38/146 36/144 35/143 34/142 34/141 34/140 35/140
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 338(-8) bugs open of 2065(+10) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 100 (+4)
      Spreadsheet - 51 (-3)
      Libreoffice - 37 (-2)
     Presentation - 24 (-3)
          Crashes - 23 (-1)
         Database - 18 (-1)
          Borders - 17 (+1)
          Drawing - 16 (-2)
            BASIC -  5 (+1)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

-- 
 michael.meeks at collabora.com  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot