LibreOffice Digest, Vol 43, Issue 16
ravi nagvekar
ravi4ubuntu at gmail.com
Sat Mar 15 11:37:23 PDT 2014
Can Libreoffice have more integration for Bigdata and Hadoop?
Please refer following link of MS Excel integration. We want to use
Libreoffice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op_5MmG7hIw
-Ravi
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:01 PM,
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> 1. is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ? (Caol?n McNamara)
> 2. OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in StartModule
> (Fernand Vanrie)
> 3. LibreOffice Gerrit News for core on 2014-03-14
> (gerrit at libreoffice.org)
> 4. Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan (imacat)
> 5. Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
> (Stephan Bergmann)
> 6. Re: OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in
> StartModule (Stephan Bergmann)
> 7. Bad empty file at
> <
> http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
> (Stephan Bergmann)
> 8. spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Caol?n McNamara)
> 9. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Alex Thurgood)
> 10. Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
> (Caol?n McNamara)
> 11. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Khaled Hosny)
> 12. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Caol?n McNamara)
> 13. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Alex Thurgood)
> 14. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Khaled Hosny)
> 15. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Alex Thurgood)
> 16. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Caol?n McNamara)
> 17. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Alex Thurgood)
> 18. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Alex Thurgood)
> 19. Manmeet Singh license statement (Manmeet Singh)
> 20. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Caol?n McNamara)
> 21. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> (Rob Snelders)
> 22. Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ? (Cor Nouws)
> 23. (Manas Joshi)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:05:25 +0000
> From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>
> To: LibreOffice Dev List <libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Cc: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman at redhat.com>
> Subject: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
> Message-ID: <1394744725.11727.14.camel at vain.rhgalway>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License something dead that can be
> removed ? I don't seem to see any use of it anywhere in our code and I
> don't see it documented anywhere for use by extensions or anything.
>
> (it has a old-school .src dialog in it that I want to get rid of)
>
> C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 22:07:40 +0100
> From: Fernand Vanrie <sos at pmgroup.be>
> To: LibreOffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in StartModule
> Message-ID: <53221E1C.20106 at pmgroup.be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> With 4.2 (Windows)
>
> Private Extensions menu's are no longer visible in the StartModule
> Private Toolbars are still visible in the StartModule
>
> <node oor:name="OfficeMenuBar">
> <node oor:name="MyPrivateMenu.OfficeMenuBar" oor:op="replace">
> <prop oor:name="Context" oor:type="xs:string">
>
> <value>com.sun.star.frame.StartModule,com.sun.star.text.TextDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.TextReportDesign,com.sun.star.text.WebDocument,com.sun.star.xforms.XMLFormDocument,com.sun.star.text.GlobalDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.FormDesign,com.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument,com.sun.star.drawing.DrawingDocument,com.sun.star.presentation.PresentationDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.OfficeDatabaseDocument</value>
> </prop>
>
> this menu shows in the different modules but
> "com.sun.star.frame.StartModule" is sillently ignored
>
>
>
>
>
> <node oor:name="MyPrivate Toolbar.OfficeToolBar" oor:op="replace">
> <node oor:name="m001" oor:op="replace">
> <prop oor:name="Context" oor:type="xs:string">
>
> <value>com.sun.star.frame.StartModule,com.sun.star.text.TextDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.TextReportDesign,com.sun.star.text.WebDocument,com.sun.star.xforms.XMLFormDocument,com.sun.star.text.GlobalDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.FormDesign,com.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument,com.sun.star.drawing.DrawingDocument,com.sun.star.presentation.PresentationDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.OfficeDatabaseDocument</value>
> </prop>
>
> here the Menubar is showed in the startModule
>
>
> is it forbidden to show private Menu's in the start Module ?
>
> Thanks for any hint
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:00:01 -0000
> From: gerrit at libreoffice.org
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Cc: qa at fr.libreoffice.org
> Subject: LibreOffice Gerrit News for core on 2014-03-14
> Message-ID: <20140314060115.A37D84C02C7 at gerrit.libreoffice.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Moin!
>
> * Open changes on master for project core changed in the last 25 hours:
>
> ~~~~ First time contributors doing great things! ~~~~
> + fdo#63154 Remove some solar.h references
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8582 from Alexandre Vicenzi
> about module accessibility, editeng, include, sd
> + fdo#76122: File Corruption-doc contains nested tables with Word Art
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8575 from Yogesh Bharate
> about module sw
> + fdo#64290 UI: count selected rows and columns
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8489 from Sujay m
> about module officecfg, sc
> + Cleaned code and comments
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8569 from Matteo Campanelli
> about module starmath
> + fdo#76098 ContentType for .xlsm external data file is wrong
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8572 from Ravindra Vidhate
> about module sw
> + Added files
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8566 from Matteo Campanelli
> about module starmath
> + Added code for keeping ratio and having right positioning
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8568 from Matteo Campanelli
> about module starmath
> + Created behavior for SmDynIntegralNode
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8567 from Matteo Campanelli
> about module starmath
> + Created Dynamic Integral Symbols class
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8565 from Matteo Campanelli
> about module starmath
> ~~~~ End of freshness ~~~~
>
> + fdo#74702 Return true if graphics is set, cleanup unused variables
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8581 from Chris Sherlock
> about module vcl
> + fdo#74775: Preseved Citation after round trip.
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8473 from Rohit Deshmukh
> about module sw, writerfilter
> + Remove visual noise from ios
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8274 from Alexander Wilms
> about module ios
>
>
> * Merged changes on master for project core changed in the last 25 hours:
>
> + fdo#76078: LO Crashes while saving the docx file containing only opening
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8561 from Dinesh Patil
> + fdo#74772 : File Corruption - Issue related to List Bullet Numbering
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8539 from Rajashri Udhoji
>
>
> * Abandoned changes on master for project core changed in the last 25
> hours:
>
> None
>
> * Open changes needing tweaks, but being untouched for more than a week:
>
> + Refactored swooxmlexport tests cases. Added function to check contents.
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8390 from Nikhil Walvekar
> + FDO#74886: Data labels are not preserved for Column Chart in RT file
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8098 from Umesh Kadam
> + sal: use posix_memalign only if it's available
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8405 from Douglas Mencken
> + fdo#71984 fix first line indentation in footnotes for MS Word documents
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/8160 from Andras Timar
> + fd0#74150:Numbered list getting display after RT -table-within-table-1.do
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7767 from Rajashri Udhoji
> + Lots of changes to Tango icons
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7987 from Miroslav Mazel
> + sw/docx export: fix handling of document with header and section(s)
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6248 from Pierre-Eric Pelloux-Prayer
> + fdo#51525 Fix duplicate "Paste Special" entries in Calc.
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7784 from Andrzej Hunt
> + fdo#72661: Check ?Hyphenation active? automatically
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7291 from Jiwoong Youn
> + sa/l add release_assert() and assert that stay even in release code
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7625 from Norbert Thiebaud
> + fdo#69407: On transparent frames, shadows are painted in foreground.
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7070 from Mohamed-Ali BEN MANSOUR
> + add a header to provide posix compatible wrapper for platform lacking
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6837 from Norbert Thiebaud
> + WIP fdo#72987 Use firebird backup format for .odb
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/7299 from Andrzej Hunt
> + sw/export docx: add unit test for document with header and section(s)
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6249 from Pierre-Eric Pelloux-Prayer
> + fix for exporting of text watermark to DOCX
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5568 from Adam CloudOn
> + WIP: fdo#33980 Preserve selection across all slide sorters.
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6633 from Andrzej Hunt
> + startcenter: Make SC open faster by timeouting thumbnails
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/6102 from Krisztian Pinter
> + Simplify oslThreadIdentifier on Linux 32.
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5553 from Arnaud Versini
> + fdo#36791 : fix for import of greeting card
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4240 from Adam CloudOn
> + Positional Tab additions
> in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5387 from Adam CloudOn
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:05:36 +0800
> From: imacat <imacat at mail.imacat.idv.tw>
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> Subject: Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:17:51 +0100
> From: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman at redhat.com>
> To: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>
> Cc: LibreOffice Dev List <libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Subject: Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
> Message-ID: <5322BB2F.2020504 at redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 03/13/2014 10:05 PM, Caol?n McNamara wrote:
> > Is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License something dead that can be
> > removed ? I don't seem to see any use of it anywhere in our code and I
> > don't see it documented anywhere for use by extensions or anything.
> >
> > (it has a old-school .src dialog in it that I want to get rid of)
>
> As dead as it gets, I'd say---apparently for 10 years now. (The
> Extension Mgr has its own
> desktop/source/deployment/gui/license_dialog.hxx for displaying any
> extension licenses.)
>
> Stephan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:24:41 +0100
> From: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman at redhat.com>
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: OfficeMenuBar no longer takes private menu's in
> StartModule
> Message-ID: <5322CAD9.3030802 at redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 03/13/2014 10:07 PM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
> > With 4.2 (Windows)
> >
> > Private Extensions menu's are no longer visible in the StartModule
> > Private Toolbars are still visible in the StartModule
> >
> > <node oor:name="OfficeMenuBar">
> > <node oor:name="MyPrivateMenu.OfficeMenuBar"
> oor:op="replace">
> > <prop oor:name="Context" oor:type="xs:string">
> >
> <value>com.sun.star.frame.StartModule,com.sun.star.text.TextDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.TextReportDesign,com.sun.star.text.WebDocument,com.sun.star.xforms.XMLFormDocument,com.sun.star.text.GlobalDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.FormDesign,com.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument,com.sun.star.drawing.DrawingDocument,com.sun.star.presentation.PresentationDocument,com.sun.star.sdb.OfficeDatabaseDocument</value>
> >
> > </prop>
> >
> > this menu shows in the different modules but
> > "com.sun.star.frame.StartModule" is sillently ignored
> [...]
> > is it forbidden to show private Menu's in the start Module ?
>
> I would rather assume this is an unintended regression with the new
> start center code.
>
> Stephan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:31:09 +0100
> From: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman at redhat.com>
> To: libreoffice-dev <LibreOffice at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Subject: Bad empty file at
> <
> http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
>
> Message-ID: <5322DA6D.5050609 at redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Quoting <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65795#c7> on
> "Syntax error in Extension Manager when trying to update":
>
> "The reason [for the syntax error] is that
> <http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
> references a completely empty file. That URL is the value of the
> ExtensionUpdateURL property in the version ini file. It is used by
> getDefaultUpdateInfos (desktop/source/deployment/misc/dp_update.cxx) to
> try and obtain 'backup' update information from one central place for
> all those extensions that fail to provide their own update information.
> The current
> <http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
> URL is used since
> <
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=52456c0acaaebe1c85d07c90a94a82c9efa4850f
> >
> 'Switch all urls from TDF to LibreOffice.' The prior, OOo-specific URL
> <
> http://updateexte.services.openoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
> >
> still delivers a file starting with
>
> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> > <feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xml:lang="en-US">
> > <title>Extension Update Feed</title>
> > <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="
> http://extensions.openoffice.org"/>
> > <updated>2013-03-18T12:03:22+00:00</updated>
>
> "I have no idea who is responsible for the empty file at
> <http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>.
>
> "I see three options to fix this:
>
> "1 Fix the file at
> <http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update>
> to conform to the expected syntax (even if it would not contain any true
> payload yet, but could do so in the future). That would fix this issue
> even for already released versions of LO.
>
> "2 Give the ExtensionUpdateURL property in the version ini file an
> empty value. That would not fix this issue for already released
> versions of LO, and for future versions of LO would disable the
> (currently unused) feature of providing such central 'backup' extension
> update information (until we change the value back in a later release).
>
> "3 Remove the (currently unused) feature of providing such central
> 'backup' extension update information completely from the code. That
> would not fix this issue for already released versions of LO.
>
> "I favour option 1 and will see to get hold of somebody to fix the file
> at <http://updateexte.libreoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
> >."
>
> So, who can fix that file (or propose a better fix)?
>
> Stephan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:45:15 +0000
> From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>
> To: LibreOffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Cc: Cor Nouws <oolst at nouenoff.nl>
> Subject: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <1394793915.11727.32.camel at vain.rhgalway>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On (non-MacOSX) unix we have "spadmin" the printer administration tool.
>
> Over the years the amount of stuff it does has been reduced, e.g. it no
> longer admins fonts, that's done through fontconfig now. It now no
> longer provides a font-substitution tab page as that's redundant
> functionality now. It now no longer provides a route to migrate your
> archaic StarOffice printer configuration to the current one.
>
> So what's left:
> a) you can "connect a fax device"
> b) you can "connect a PDF converter"
> c) you can "add a printer"
> d) you can disable cups support
>
> I would like to simplify the situation to "we use cups" and remove
> spadmin and all its many associated dialogs and tabpages in favor of the
> system printer management software. So the question is if any part of
> spadmin is still useful? Is there anyone still configuring fax machines
> or using the other options there, and if so for what purpose ?
>
> The last time I tried to get rid of spadmin (in 2004) in Fedora there
> was push back because there were still people using fax machines. 10
> years later, is this still the case ? If this is still a relevant use
> case then I can invest a little time in examining the fax-cups options
> out there and figure out how to correctly send the destination phone
> number to them and recommend that as the new fax support mechanism.
>
> C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:31:50 +0100
> From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <lfupaj$3i4$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Le 14/03/2014 11:45, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
>
> Hi Caolan,
>
> Judging from the posts I have seen on the user list since LO came into
> existence, there are still some use cases where CUPS does not provide
> the required support and people need to be able to fall back to spadmin
> for printing.
>
> The fact that spadmin could be used to add Type1 PS fonts, which are no
> longer supported, if I understand correctly, has also been, and
> continues to be, an issue that crops up on the user list (and possibly
> also in BZ) for some people.
>
> The problem as I see it is that there are so many printers out there
> being used by LO users, some of them quite old now (yet tried and
> trusted, especially in business), for which CUPS support has been
> dropped or curbed over time, and it is handy to be able to pop in one's
> own PPD to just get the job done.
>
> >From my own experience, the switch to "CUPS ONLY" by default caused the
> loss of being able to print from two different trays in one document
> over the network, i.e. have page 1 print out on header paper in a first
> or manual tray, and then subsequent pages from the follow-on paper tray.
> This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
> including on Mac OSX. I have not yet found a way to this with CUPS,
> having been reduced to separate printing steps for each set of pages.
>
> I have no idea whether such use cases are still representative of the
> mainstream usage of LO, but it is certainly around in businesses with
> legacy printers that are still functioning. I have used HP LJs (4050n,
> 2500dtn, Apple LaserWriter) in business scenarii in the past with OOo
> and the ability to fiddle with the PPD to get things working right was
> the saving grace on many occasion.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:06:09 +0000
> From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>
> To: Stephan Bergmann <sbergman at redhat.com>
> Cc: LibreOffice Dev List <libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Subject: Re: is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License dead ?
> Message-ID: <1394798769.11727.33.camel at vain.rhgalway>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 09:17 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> > On 03/13/2014 10:05 PM, Caol?n McNamara wrote:
> > > Is com.sun.star.comp.framework.License something dead that can be
> > > removed ? I don't seem to see any use of it anywhere in our code and I
> > > don't see it documented anywhere for use by extensions or anything.
> > >
> > > (it has a old-school .src dialog in it that I want to get rid of)
> >
> > As dead as it gets, I'd say---apparently for 10 years now. (The
> > Extension Mgr has its own
> > desktop/source/deployment/gui/license_dialog.hxx for displaying any
> > extension licenses.)
>
> Gone now.
>
> C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:18:25 +0200
> From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny at eglug.org>
> To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> Cc: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <20140314121825.GA9245 at khaled-laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:31:50PM +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> > Le 14/03/2014 11:45, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
> >
> > Hi Caolan,
> >
> > Judging from the posts I have seen on the user list since LO came into
> > existence, there are still some use cases where CUPS does not provide
> > the required support and people need to be able to fall back to spadmin
> > for printing.
>
> So the question is, how other applications are handled? Do those people
> print exclusively using LibreOffice?
>
> (I always export to PDF and print from the PDF viewer myself as I find
> printing from LibreOffice to be too mysterious for my limited
> understanding of how printers work.)
>
> Regards,
> Khaled
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:40:46 +0000
> From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>
> To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> Cc: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <1394800846.11727.46.camel at vain.rhgalway>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 12:31 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> > The fact that spadmin could be used to add Type1 PS fonts, which are no
> > longer supported, if I understand correctly, has also been, and
> > continues to be, an issue that crops up on the user list (and possibly
> > also in BZ) for some people.
>
> Have you a link to an example because type 1 fonts "just work", there
> was no removal of support for those. The "add fonts" ability of spadmin
> was removed in 2012 and prior to that was only visible if your system
> didn't support fontconfig which is a practically impossible situation
> for many years now so I'd like to understand that comment a little more.
>
> > This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
> > including on Mac OSX.
>
> I'm a little baffled, spadmin on MacOSX ?, what version included spadmin
> on MacOSX ? We certainly don't do it now.
>
> If there are cases where fiddling with the ppd manually and adding that
> via spadmin worked, would not the same solution work by using the system
> tools to set the replacement ppd for the printer ? e.g. using
> system-config-printer under Fedora and "provide PPD file"
>
> C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:37:06 +0100
> From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <lfv0lf$tb9$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Le 14/03/2014 13:40, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
>
> > Have you a link to an example because type 1 fonts "just work", there
> > was no removal of support for those. The "add fonts" ability of spadmin
> > was removed in 2012 and prior to that was only visible if your system
> > didn't support fontconfig which is a practically impossible situation
> > for many years now so I'd like to understand that comment a little more.
>
> Not off-hand, I'd have to trawl through the LO user mailing list - the
> problems might have been linked to a particular OS or particular Type1
> fonts, I don't remember exactly now.
>
> >
> >> This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
> >> including on Mac OSX.
> >
> > I'm a little baffled, spadmin on MacOSX ?, what version included spadmin
> > on MacOSX ? We certainly don't do it now.
>
> Yes, I wasn't talking about LO, but during OOo times, before the switch
> to CUPS printing, this was possible.
>
> >
> > If there are cases where fiddling with the ppd manually and adding that
> > via spadmin worked, would not the same solution work by using the system
> > tools to set the replacement ppd for the printer ? e.g. using
> > system-config-printer under Fedora and "provide PPD file"
> >
>
> Unfortunately, I have no idea. My comments were made not to discourage
> you from going ahead with your plan, just to relate what I had seen on
> the LO mailing list and my own previous experience of before/after the
> switch to CUPS printing, both on Linux and OSX.
>
>
> Questions / bugs about PS Type1 support :
>
>
> http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2631/adobe-postscript-type-1-font-not-displaying-in-libreoffice-3532-mac/
>
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37453
>
> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg05099.html
>
> https://forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1197
>
>
> http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/6045-type-1-fonts-not-seen-by-libreoffice-36-bodhi-201/page__view__findpost__p__56029
>
> The last one, in particular (seocnd to last comment), provides a
> workaround for creating AFM/PFM files on Linux, but note that this
> didn't used to be a requirement, before the switch to CUPS printing was
> made - previously, Type1 fonts were recognized in OOo "automagically".
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:46:18 +0200
> From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny at eglug.org>
> To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> Cc: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <20140314134618.GA12636 at khaled-laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 02:37:06PM +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> > The last one, in particular (seocnd to last comment), provides a
> > workaround for creating AFM/PFM files on Linux, but note that this
> > didn't used to be a requirement, before the switch to CUPS printing was
> > made - previously, Type1 fonts were recognized in OOo "automagically".
>
> The code that requires AFM files for Type1 fonts have been there since
> 2001 with the introduction of PostSctipt printing in OpenOffice, so I
> fail to see how it would have worked differently in the bast.
>
> (I don?t really think we need the info contained in the AFM files,
> though, but someone has to trace the code to verify this.)
>
> Regards
> Khaled
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:56:33 +0100
> From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <lfv1pu$ajp$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Le 14/03/2014 11:45, Caol?n McNamara a ?crit :
>
> We might want to get rid of this page too at the same time :
>
>
> https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Setting_up_Printer_and_Fax_Under_UNIX_Based_Platforms
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:04:50 +0000
> From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>
> To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> Cc: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <1394805890.11727.55.camel at vain.rhgalway>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 14:37 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> > Questions / bugs about PS Type1 support :
> >
> http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2631/adobe-postscript-type-1-font-not-displaying-in-libreoffice-3532-mac/
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37453
> > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg05099.html
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1197
> That block of reports seems to be about Type 1 fonts not being
> recognized under MacOSX.
>
> >
> http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/6045-type-1-fonts-not-seen-by-libreoffice-36-bodhi-201/page__view__findpost__p__56029
> This one is about Type 1 fonts under Linux not recognized without afms
> present
> and it seems a little uncertain if that's the MacOSX issue as well
>
> The old add-fonts stuff in spadmin wouldn't have had any effect on
> either of those two issues.
>
> > but note that this didn't used to be a requirement, before the switch
> > to CUPS printing was made - previously, Type1 fonts were recognized in
> > OOo "automagically".
>
> I don't see a connection between Type1 fonts not being recognized on
> MacOSX and CUPS printing. Either way spadmin wouldn't help.
>
> C.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:06:10 +0100
> From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <lfv2bv$jbv$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Le 14/03/2014 14:37, Alex Thurgood a ?crit :
>
> Let me add to the list :
>
> https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70184
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:13:29 +0100
> From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <lfv2pm$ppu$1 at ger.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Le 14/03/2014 14:37, Alex Thurgood a ?crit :
>
> Call me a killjoy, but this one looks related too :
>
> https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=38825
>
> The user here, printing on older business printers, had to configure a
> specific font directory containing only PS Type 1 fonts in order for the
> conversion to PDF would work in a way allowing him to print his documents.
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:10:20 +0530
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> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
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> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:08:05 +0000
> From: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>
> To: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood at gmail.com>
> Cc: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <1394809685.11727.63.camel at vain.rhgalway>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 15:13 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> > Le 14/03/2014 14:37, Alex Thurgood a ?crit :
> >
> > Call me a killjoy, but this one looks related too :
> >
> > https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=38825
> >
> > The user here, printing on older business printers, had to configure a
> > specific font directory containing only PS Type 1 fonts in order for the
> > conversion to PDF would work in a way allowing him to print his
> documents.
>
> Again these don't have any connection to spadmin. Even when spadmin had
> the ability to add stuff into your font dirs it wouldn't have been able
> to be used to configure the dirs in the hacky way the reporter there
> used to workaround whatever the problem he had back then.
>
> C,
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:24:38 +0100
> From: Rob Snelders <rob at ertai.nl>
> To: libreoffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <7be84e2e93b3ba95341d986423044160 at mail.bommelnetworks.net>
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>
> Hi All,
>
> From my last job in retail-supplying I know a lot of Fax is still used
> in countries like Belgium, UK and a lot of African countries.
> We wheren't communicating directly between the faxes and libreoffice,
> but I wouldn't say that Fax isn't used anymore.
> Also in the legal the Fax is still used as a faxed document is legal in
> some countries but via email/internet isn't.
>
> --
> Greetings,
> Rob Snelders
>
> Caol?n McNamara schreef op 14-03-2014 13:40:
> > On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 12:31 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> >> The fact that spadmin could be used to add Type1 PS fonts, which are
> >> no
> >> longer supported, if I understand correctly, has also been, and
> >> continues to be, an issue that crops up on the user list (and possibly
> >> also in BZ) for some people.
> >
> > Have you a link to an example because type 1 fonts "just work", there
> > was no removal of support for those. The "add fonts" ability of spadmin
> > was removed in 2012 and prior to that was only visible if your system
> > didn't support fontconfig which is a practically impossible situation
> > for many years now so I'd like to understand that comment a little
> > more.
> >
> >> This could previously be set up in a PPD and included via spadmin,
> >> including on Mac OSX.
> >
> > I'm a little baffled, spadmin on MacOSX ?, what version included
> > spadmin
> > on MacOSX ? We certainly don't do it now.
> >
> > If there are cases where fiddling with the ppd manually and adding that
> > via spadmin worked, would not the same solution work by using the
> > system
> > tools to set the replacement ppd for the printer ? e.g. using
> > system-config-printer under Fedora and "provide PPD file"
> >
> > C.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > LibreOffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:15:58 +0100
> From: Cor Nouws <oolst at nouenoff.nl>
> To: Caol?n McNamara <caolanm at redhat.com>,
> LibreOffice at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: spadmin, fax machines, etc. is this still useful ?
> Message-ID: <53230F1E.6080703 at nouenoff.nl>
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>
> Hi Caol?n,
>
> Caol?n McNamara wrote (14-03-14 11:45)
>
> > So the question is if any part of
> > spadmin is still useful? Is there anyone still configuring fax machines
> > or using the other options there, and if so for what purpose ?
>
> I would not be surprised.. but will ask some contacts to be more sure
> (for as far as my network is concerned).
>
> thanks for asking,
> Cor
>
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