minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Oct 2 07:51:07 PDT 2014
+ Norbert, Andras, Bjoern, Jacobo, Kendy, Kohei, Michael M,
Miklos, Stephan, Eike, David, Caolán, Christian, Robinson,
* Completed Action Items:
+ blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern)
+ look at Excel threaded loading issue (Michael)
+ move the redmine data across to infra / bugzilla (Bjoern)
+ open-source newer Synezip tests (Umesh)
[ uncertain outcome; but planned to run these on a server
on the cloud service, announce the results in the ESC meeting. ]
+ poke Alex wrt. off-site backup for TDF services (Cloph)
[ spoke to him, and added to the task queue ].
+ everyone review a gerrit patch (All)
[ master patch queue down to two pages now ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ Ask Bjoern to do a survey on the wrench icons (Mirek)
+ provide wiki links for new processes for design interation (Mirek)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ vacation was good - a break from the computer...
+ 4.2.7 RC1
+ already branched and tagged
+ Norbert upgraded XCode upgrade dropped 10.8 -> Mac build delayed
+ change in the underlying C++ lib an issue in a .7 release.
+ Linux build has issues http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/writerfilter/source/dmapper/DomainMapper_Impl.cxx?id=a392a1deb0bb55f39f0232f9b3df8ad9ac9062af is problematic commit
+ Windows build up-loading soon.
+ Review appreciated for these patches:
+ if you miss 4.2.7 - that's it: its the last release.
+ need tripple reviews - have had a -1 but no feedback since.
+ 4.3.3 RC1 - freeze on Monday
+ tagging normally on Tuesday.
+ credits: Tor not listed - why ?
+ in the alias file from gitdm-config, we have a duplicate alias
that looses commits, and fixed that also for Joerg Scottke
+ Android Remote
AI: + copy/paste the 4.3 schedule -> 4.5 schedule wiki page (Cloph)
* Mac has new code-signing scheme from 10.9 (Norbert)
+ lots of new rules & configuration restrictions to avoid
+ should we back-port Tor's work to 4.3 ? (Norbert)
+ scary to back-port it, a bit reluctant
+ so people get warnings when they install for now
+ talk to Tor to see what he recommends ? (Norbert)
+ back-porting moves files around, quite a lot of work etc.
+ ending up with a hard-breakage is unpleasant.
AI: + come back next week with a proposal (Norbert)
+ leaning towards deferring for 4.4 anyway.
+ we've prolly found most of the delicate bits (Stephan)
+ found bits like this in the SDK last week.
+ will break something, but perhaps few people used them.
+ also happier to defer to 4.4
* Crashtest update (Miklos)
+ new results: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/e29862bcc509916e7fe3e9b2f43b0672c49b7f6e/ (27-Sep-2014)
+ configure option to turn on export validation during the build.
+ already done for calc & impress, now enabled for a subset of the writer test-cases.
+ why not on by default ? (Michael)
+ requires officetron & Java and ...
+ Markus' tinderbox has it enabled
AI: + Create an Easy-hack for setting validators automatically (Miklos)
+ did my threading fix work ? (Michael)
+ bit of a delay till crashtesting provides feedback (Miklos)
+ worth double checking some of the other XLSX files (Caolan)
+ Caolan on a mission to get these numbers right down currently.
+ Seattle 'Libre-Fest' (Robinson)
+ October 26, 2014
+ Bug-triaging/Intro-to-community event
+ Following SeaGL conference
+ definite interest, heard back from some professors from the security lab
+ want to meet Norbert and/or Kohei and/or Bjoern - why not go ?
+ Organizer wants to make it security related ... (Kohei)
+ not ideal; perhaps mis-lead by the 'hack' name
+ one of the labs / a set of labs at Uni. of Washington
+ a couple of security based team, capture-the-flag team / lab
directors was interested in connecting with us.
+ try to avoid the circus (Michael)
+ continue the discussion on E-mail (Bjoern)
+ Toulouse Hackfest (Arnaud)
+ Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
+ more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
+ Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek):
+ jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account
+ will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming
just show up etc.
+ November 21st-23rd, 2014
+ we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible
+ Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern)
+ would it be good to have more focuse hack-fests (Michael)
* Coverity (Caolan)
+ updated to a new compiler for more, deeper joy
+ new cut/paste code detecting is great (Caolan)
+ what about tainting issues ? (Michael)
+ a problem; bit lame; internal resource files a non-issue
+ no replies from them on disabling tainting for a safe file.
+ it detects byte-swapping to turn tainting on: assumes it is
coming from a network etc. (guess) ?
+ love to be able to disable error foo from 16bit loop variables,
64k not a huge number.
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ minutes published of the first design hang-out, yesterday
+ was fun, we were able to have some decisions too.
+ new process / how-to-do-things
+ add things to have decided to the etherpad of the design hangout
+ and wait for Kendy to post minutes.
+ otherwise, talking over things going in from last week,
encouraging to see.
* QA (Robinson)
+ unconfirmed count dropped by ~50 or so this week.
+ questions from QA team wrt. back-porting bug-fixes
+ a couple of people interested in that
+ when do we decide to back-port to 4.3 ?
+ people noticed things fixed on master, but not back-ported.
+ currently left up to the developer on a case-by-case basis (Michael)
+ length of patch no guide to risk sadly.
+ ask and you shall maybe recieve (?)
+ usually developer decides as they commit
* Up-loaded the tinderboxing bits for docker (Bjoern)
+ making it easier to deploy and manage lots of tinderboxes easily
+ magic orchestration stuff.
+ isn't it a bit limited ? (Cedric)
+ Linux only, one distro etc. ?
+ surely the power of tinderboxes is hetrogenous architectures.
+ useful anyway (Bjoern)
* QA stats:
+185 -140 (+45 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Caolán McNamara 15
Samuel Mehrbrodt 15
Adolfo Jayme 10
Jean-Baptiste Faure 7
Jay Philips 7
Matthew Francis 7
A (Andy) 5
Robinson Tryon (qubit) 4
* Open 4.4 MAB
+ 3/12 3/12 3/12 7/12 3/8 3/8 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/1
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 17/61 16/60 14/59 15/58 12/54 13/53 14/52 14/50 11/47 14/47 14/45 19/43
27% 26% 23% 25% 22% 24% 26% 28% 23% 29% 33% 44%
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 86/257 88/257 89/257 91/257 86/252 82/245 83/244 83/243 84/236 85/235
33% 35% 34% 35% 34% 33% 34% 34% 35% 36%
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 147/401 143/392 143/389 146/385 142/375 141/374 136/361 127/349
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 475(+9) bugs open of 3078(+18) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 142 (+2)
Spreadsheet - 93 (+1)
Presentation - 32 (+1)
Crashes - 31 (+1)
Libreoffice - 24 (+0)
Database - 26 (+0)
UI - 23 (+2)
Graphics - 22 (-1)
Borders - 19 (+0)
Filters - 17 (+1)
Drawing - 16 (+1)
Print / PDF - 14 (+1)
Chart - 10 (+1)
BASIC - 5 (+0)
Extensions - 5 (+0)
Linguistic - 4 (+0)
Installation - 4 (+0)
Formula - 4 (+0)
framework - 1 (+0)
sdk - 0 (+0)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
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