minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Dec 3 08:02:41 PST 2015
* Present:
+ David, Sophie, Norbert, Jan-Marek, Muthu, Robinson, Stephan, Christian,
Michael S, Caolan, Thorsten, Miklos, Michael M, Kendy, Bubli, Bjoern, JanI
* Completed Actions / Items:
+ (please) Linux Jenkins build with --enable-kde4 (Norbert)
+ add commit access for JanI if no complaints (Michael)
+ come up with a proposal for "abandoned" / "insufficient data"
resolution in the bug-flow graph (Robinson)
[ live now in BZ - E-mailed QA & dev list
Docs: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Status/RESOLVED#INSUFFICIENTDATA ]
+ check mDNSResponder & move it to external/ (Michael S.)
[ now converted to proper external tar-ball on master
also up-loaded an upgrade to latest apple release to gerrit,
can't test it himself.
=> push to master
AI: ask for QA support of Android remote on Windows (Robinson) ]
+ help out with Maven sign & up-load (David O)
[ work ongoing, thanks David ! https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1629 ].
* Pending Action Items:
+ book FOSDEM conf. room for board meeting (Florian)
[ perhaps after not before to avoid hackfest conflict ]
+ list of developers who havn't contributed in a while (JanI)
+ double-check libmar/src, update/src, remove the duplicate, etc. (Kendy)
+ UserAgent - move to 1% of users, drop bundled-languages etc. (Michael)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.4.7 RC2: final release
+ on the mirrors now
+ announce as final next week
+ 5.0.4 RC1
+ on the mirrors.
+ RC2 is due next week.
+ final release in week 51 / starts Dec 14th
+ 5.1.0 Betas
+ will tag B2 after the ESC call today.
+ B1 suffers from high CPU / idle bug.
+ better experience for testers.
AI: + enable calc bits by default for now for more testing (Kendy)
[ all unit tests still pass with it on.
Run one test twice in 2x modes. ]
+ translations also need time, plan tag at 9pm (Cloph)
+ Late Features:
+ calc s/w interpreter-related patch
[ dropped getenv() bits, working on requested perf. test & unit testing ]
+ OpenGL - switch to simpler double-buffering.
[ good progress, swap buffers at (high prio.) idle like Mac ]
+ problems with Windows Surface -> not seeing anything (Stephan)
+ need to find hardware; and 'black list'[sic] it
AI: + poke at the users-list on this one (Michael)
+ Slide Transitions: artwork & polish
[ New images looking good thanks to Andreas - need merging to -5-1
AI: + merge across before B2 (Michael) ]
+ UserAgent display & tweakage
[ still needs random 1% doing ]
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96127 no ui visible in Android Viewer (unconfirmed)
+ doesn't specify the version.
+ screenshots look compelling.
* Documentation (Kendy)
+ new volunteer working on updating help
+ getting him bootstrapped.
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ new meeting time - Friday 2pm European time
+ new icons for presentation / transitions
+ presentation modes
+ should we change size of icons related to new presentation modes.
+ the new switcher allows editing master slides more easily.
+ going through old and/or easy ux-advice bugs
+ open the bug and went through together -> ok to close ? needinfo etc. ?
+ hopefully drops the bug count.
* Crashtest update
+ 0 import failures, 0 export failures, 310 coverity
+ back to quiescence
+ coverity down slightly; 310 -> Java issues.
* SVG graphics rendering (Jan-Marek)
+ SVG graphics are rendered by decomposing them into 2D drawing layer objects
+ extremely slow rendering for complex graphics like the squirrel from
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82214
+ since the render image target was removed, what would be the best way to cache
rendering results?
+ what would be a good idea to speed it up again.
+ have a playground in a special private/jmux/ branch.
+ Dave Richard (dave_largo) wanted to spend some time on it (not sure if he actually want to code)
+ horrible perf. issues with transparent images over remote-X (Michael S)
+ we get a remote round-trip to GPU or remote server.
+ good place to start optimizing.
AI: + talk to Armin, alg on IRC (JMux)
+ polygon winding dead slow - and duplicates underlying rendering often (Michael)
+ doing this while rendering is faster.
+ Should we support external renderers like rSVG again?
+ vs. fix perf. problems ? (Thorsten)
+ prefer to fix perf. myself (Michael)
AI: + get a callgrind trace (JMux)
+ best to go forward not back (Thorsten)
* FOSDEM
+ talk submissions - status ?
+ deadline: Monday December 7th. Accepted speakers are notified by Dec 15th
+ Anything submitted:
+ NotebookBar talk (Samuel)
+ Suggestions:
+ fuzzing / UI testing (Caolan)
+ mail-merge embedding (Miklos)
+ VCL / update main-loop (Michael)
+ Clang / CL bits (Stephan)
+ Help authoring (Regina?/Kendy)
+ LibreOffice Online design (Kendy)
+ Sysadmin overview talk (Alex)
+ UI hacking / sidebar (Bubli)
+ no idea (Bjoern)
+ Lightning Talks (Thorsten)
+ Lowering the bar for newcomers (JanI)
+ File at: <https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16/>
* Terni (Italy) Hackfest Update ?
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Terni2015
+ Cloph to ask wrt. status.
* GNOME hack-fest in Madrid - Dec 2nd -> 4th (Bubli)
+ Wiki page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Madrid2015
+ Jacobo, Jan, Bjoern, Bubli + a couple more.
+ guy from Valencia -> submitted 1st patch.
+ live update.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ FOSDEM / Beta Co-working (Bjoern)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2016
+ next venues / suggestions
+ considering another Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
+ March next year (?)
+ Turkey
+ talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training.
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
+ pending JanI being well; making patches,
preparing for next week.
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ nothing going on particularly.
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ pending another 2 weeks,
then will start a new round soon...
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Nov 26 14:52:52 2015
master linux rel jobs:156 ok:152 ko:4 fail ratio:2.56% break:2 broken duration:0.76%
master linux dbg jobs:145 ok:64 ko:81 fail ratio:55.86% break:6 broken duration:53.7%
master mac rel jobs:142 ok:126 ko:16 fail ratio:11.26% break:6 broken duration:11.55%
master mac dbg jobs:137 ok:119 ko:18 fail ratio:13.13% break:8 broken duration:11.99%
master win rel jobs:84 ok:74 ko:10 fail ratio:11.9% break:4 broken duration:4.99%
master win dbg jobs:121 ok:100 ko:21 fail ratio:17.35% break:12 broken duration:15.46%
master win64 dbg jobs:127 ok:104 ko:23 fail ratio:18.11% break:12 broken duration:17.38%
lo-4.4 mac jobs:0 ok:0 ko:0 fail ratio:0% break:0 broken duration:0%
gerrit win rel jobs:198 ok:116 ko:80 fail ratio:40.4%
gerrit lin rel jobs:204 ok:192 ko:12 fail ratio:5.88%
gerrit mac rel jobs:204 ok:175 ko:29 fail ratio:14.21%
gerrit all jobs:198 ok:105 ko:91 fail ratio:45.95%
+ numbers; had weird Linux dbg issue.
+ not sure if it was code or system.
+ not broken now -> somehow fixed.
+ 'make check' run by CI ? (Michael)
+ could we have this for Linux ?
+ run by dbgutil tinderbox - no all platforms (Norbert)
+ need to run the numbers
+ may be able to run the linux dbgutil make-check too.
+ 4x targets
+ good news - Windows 30mins on average for gerrit.
+ Linux - 10 to 15mins ...
AI: + try this for Linux (Norbert)
+ not for windows this year.
* Easy Hacks:
+ new easy-hacks thanks to: Tor Lillqvist, Markus Mohrhard
+ http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX
+ create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
"easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup"
+ create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
(or remove the whiteboard keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard=needsDevEval
* Board Election (Thorsten)
+ check your spam filters, ask MC if you don't have a token and you're a member.
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED at 504 + 31 bugs in UX-advise
+ needAdvice at 15
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
+ tdf#94851 - (comment) Images are not printed (paper and PDF) with OpenGL activated
+ Michael -> taking it.
+ tdf#90913 - OSX - very poor performance when first opening Finder dialog
+ Over 2min to open Finder/File Save dialogs
+ may be scheduler / main-loop related ?
+ tdf#89034 - OS X: Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
+ Common issue -> lots of duplicates
+ can be bisected -> no bibisect before 4.3.x
+ love someone to manually compile / bibisect that.
+ tdf#94689 - Crash on new file, close file, open file
+ Fixed (thanks to Laszlo)
+ Mail merge regression concern (Bjoern)
+ http://bit.ly/1POJrmp
+ having a look (Thorsten, Kendy)
+ Are all seven reported regressions unique?
+ can only know for sure when fixed (Miklos)
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+137 -125 (+12 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Beluga 18
Maxim Monastirsky 13
Cor Nouws 10
Eike Rathke 7
tommy27 6
V Stuart Foote 6
Alex Thurgood 5
Julien Nabet 5
Andras Timar 4
Laurent BP 3
Jan Holesovsky 3
Yousuf (Jay) Philips 3
Miklos Vajna 3
m.a.riosv 3
Xisco Faulí 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 0/0 - 0%
5.1: 2/21 - 9%
5.0: 10/49 - 20% -1
4.4: 11/72 - 15% +0
4.3: 6/67 - 8% +0
4.2: 10/133 - 7% -1
4.1: 4/79 - 5% +0
4.0: 10/81 - 12% +0
old: 40/247 - 16% +0
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 344/1125 343/1116 335/1103 336/1098 332/1088 341/1089 330/1074
+ http://tdf.io/bibibugs
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 721(+0) bugs open of 4465(+22) total 40(-3) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 19 (-1)
Writer - 11 (-1)
LibreOffice - 6 (-1)
Impress - 1 (+0)
graphics stack - 1 (+0)
Extensions - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 240 (+2)
Calc - 154 (-2)
Crashes - 55 (+0)
Impress - 49 (+1)
LibreOffice - 47 (+0)
UI - 41 (-1)
graphics stack - 33 (+1)
Borders - 29 (-1)
Base - 25 (+1)
Draw - 22 (+0)
filters and storage - 15 (-1)
BASIC - 14 (+1)
Printing and PDF export- 12 (+0)
Chart - 10 (+0)
Formula Editor - 5 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
framework - 2 (+0)
Linguistic - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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