Minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-25
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Thu Aug 25 15:27:42 UTC 2016
* Present: Stephan, Thorsten, Heiko, Jan-Marek, jan i, Robinson, Christian, Sophie, Kendy,
Olivier, Bubli, Armin, Andras, Michael S, Eike, Lionel, Bjoern (16:08)
* Completed Action Items:
+ move component:ux-advise to component:LibreOffice keyword:UX as ninja-edit (Robinson)
+ ux-advise component disabled for new bugs
+ Program committee to work on the Conf. program (Kendy, Thorsten, Italo, Marina)
[ published now, changes still possible, please check your availability, or if
your talk is there at all
http://conference.libreoffice.org/2016/the-program/ ]
+ Disable Firebird for clang (Miklos)
[ DONE ]
+ update the link to QA stats (Christian)
http://tdf.io/bibibugs updated
+ bring patch for Writer regression stat update (Bjoern)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/28239 and pushed
* Pending Action Items:
+ poke at MSDN licenses (Michael)
[ waiting for a response on new process, on holiday ? ]
+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
[ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script
to refine it - will work - needs a bit more python (Norbert) ]
+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
+ still need to get API key, rest is done
+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.1 → 5.1.6 rc1 Oct 4th
+ 5.2 → 5.2.1 rc2 next Tue (Aug 23rd)
+ tagged yesterday, builds done except Win32 (but that'll be soon)
+ will be announced shortly after the call (Cloph)
+ 5.2.2 RC1 September 6th
+ 5.3 → 5.3.0 alpha 1 Oct 18th
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ plans to update soon
* LibreOffice Conference in Brno (Kendy)
+ prepare slides, make sure you've booked travel, etc.
+ LibreOffice Conference template? (Heiko)
+ Sophie has sent info about that, and it's in the wiki too
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Proposal_LibOConf2016_Template.odp
+ register if you didn't do so already: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2016/registration/
+ please make sure to register even if you are a speaker (Cloph)
+ no auto-registration there
* Membership Committee plug (Michael)
+ Please send nominations and self-nominations via e-mail to
elections at documentfoundation.org (which reaches the Board of
Directors in private) and also (!) to
board-discuss at documentfoundation.org (which is a public mailing
list). We kindly ask nominees who would like to stand for
elections to provide a statement of up to 75 words on their
candidacy as continuous text (so no bullet lists or multiple
paragraphs). In addition, please also provide your full name,
e-mail address and your corporate affiliation, if any, and
please announce that you will provide information on all future
changes as soon as possible.
+ tooling uses git & is user-friendly for devs.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help pages on CMIS (Remote files) and CMIS setup. Need review by experts.
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/28277/
+ pending review
+ More info on [NatNum] number format modifiers (by Laurent Ballard Poirier)
+ Tweaks on documentation page in Portal http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
+ Mail for l10n community for links to new "Get Help Online" entry in Help menu
+ https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1988
+ some communities have their own forums, the rest redirected to
ask.libreoffice.org (Olivier)
+ would be good to have a link from the local forums to ask.libreoffice.org
too (Bjoern)
+ sounds good, we could probably add links to other languages (Olivier)
+ will talk about that in Brno (Bjoern / Olivier)
+ HelpContent plugin / extension helps, but still not ideal when eg. working with
links to files etc. (Olivier)
+ tender was not possible, so the plugin is the best we can have at
the moment (Kendy)
+ documentation from GSoC students? (Heiko)
+ couple of patches from Bubli's student (Bubli)
+ will review that (Olivier)
+ worth poking the students again (Heiko)
+ enough to get them to write plain-text, Olivier will format that into
help page (Olivier)
AI: + get the students write the plain-text at least (all GSoC mentors)
+ Suggested contents (olivier):
+ Short introduction
+ how to acess the function/feature, toolbar, menu, kbd
+ Description of the feature (the more the best)
+ tips, warnings
+ related topics
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten)
+ Next deadline is August 29th 19:00 UTC for mentors to submit their evaluation
+ failure to do so will result in mentor summit slots dropped
+ reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc.
+ documentation important (Thorsten)
+ 6 students attending the Conference
+ agree on mentor summit attendance
+ Oct 29th - 30th
AI: + will ask around & come up with a proposal (Thorsten)
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ R.I.P. ux-advice, long live needsUXEval
+ Robinson killed it today (Heiko)
+ Total number of needsUXEval (507)
+ Base 1
+ Calc 14
+ Draw 74
+ Extensions 1
+ framework 3
+ Impress 9
+ LibreOffice 357
+ Localization 1
+ UI 14
+ Writer 33
+ compared to 2016-08-18
+ Changed: (507)
+ New: All-in-one settings (tdf#101609)
+ Closed: -
+ working on table styles (tdf#101349) and extended toolbar (aka notebookbar)
+ related to the appropriate GSoC tasks (Heiko)
+ will create a blog post about the table styles soon (Heiko)
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ ? import failure, ? export failures, ? (last time 1680) coverity issues
+ mails from the Crashtest VM seem not be coming to the ML? (Kendy)
+ probably using wrong TLS version? (Cloph)
AI: + will have a look why it is not sending mail any more (Cloph)
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next hackfests: nothing confirmed yet.
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Akademy / FSFE summit - in the week before LibOCon ? (Thorsten)
+ more suggestions welcome
+ Code for Hamburg (Eike)
+ Friday to Sunday hacking event
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1999
+ Koerberstiftung: Digital Empowerment
http://www.kampnagel.de/de/programm/datapolitics/?datum=&id_datum=4756
http://www.koerber-stiftung.de/innovation/im-fokus-digitale-muendigkeit.html
+ Leuphana? http://www.leuphana.de/en/research-centers/cdc/news.html
+ girls-only event in Berlin, 29th October
+ "Ladies who FOSS" (https://wikimedia.de/wiki/Ladies_that_FOSS) wikimedia and firefox already participating
+ Bubli ponders participating too
+ should we do a blogpost? (Bjoern)
+ afterwards...
* Updating ESC stats (Bjoern)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/28239
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/28240
+ any objections?
+ none is seems => merged (Bjoern)
* Old non-bibisected regressions (Bjoern)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_severity&y_axis_field=component&z_axis_field=&no_redirect=1&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=LibreOffice&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&resolution=---&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=regression&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&emailtype3=substring&email3=&chfieldvalue=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&j_top=AND&f1=version&o1=notregexp&v1=%5E5&f2=keywords&o2=notsubstring&v2=bibisect&f3=noop&o3=noop&v3=&format=table&action=wrap
+ currently 98 non-bibisected regressions from pre-5.0 times:
+ 31 Writer (12 filter bugs)
+ 22 Calc
+ Ubuntu 12.04 and similar ancient releases will soon be EOL
+ I recently tried building an old LibreOffice 3.6 timeframe master for bisecting and its horrible on a modern setup
+ best to bibisect (and possibly even bisecting) there before it gets worse
+ please help! (Bjoern)
* Mentoring/easyhack update (janI)
+ legend: contributors are not-yet-committers, numbers in () are +/- compared to last week
+ summary:
16823(0) commits in a year of which 7869(-40) were made directly, without use of gerrit
287(0) people made commits in a year, 6(-24) in a month. 31(9) people to be emailed
+ gerrit: committer open 56(-7) contributor open 37(-11)
updated merged abandoned updated merged abandoned
year: 56(-7) 7366(4) 588(4) 37(-11) 1588(36) 505(1)
month: 56(-4) 594(-28) 32(-5) 37(-11) 176(-5) 38(-16)
week: 35( 0) 124(2) 7(-5) 16(-11) 48(23) 4(-2)
+ easyHacks:
total 249(0) open 215(2) assigned 10(-3) needinfo 24(1)
needsDevEval 488(6) of which 0(0) are easyHacks
needsUXEval 169(6) of which 9(0) are easyHacks
missing cleanup due to many comments 203(1)
+ top 5 contributors (based on merged patches last month):
Zdenek Crhonek got 66 patches merged, and have a total of 193 merged patches
Susobhan Ghosh got 21 patches merged, and have a total of 36 merged patches
Muhammet Kara got 12 patches merged, and have a total of 57 merged patches
Stanislav Horáček got 10 patches merged, and have a total of 83 merged patches
Arnold Dumas got 10 patches merged, and have a total of 21 merged patches
+ new easyHacks:
* None *
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
+ please remember, a codepointer is mandatory, and typically a look from an experienced developer
+ create new easy hacks from these ones or remove "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
+ Silent week, mostly worked on pootle and wiki
+ Received invitation to participate in capstone (Portland university)
+ http://eecs.oregonstate.edu/capstone/submission/?page=home
+ Participated earlier with good results, and can help any that wants to mentor
+ UI projects are normally well seen by the students.
+ what they are looking for? (Heiko)
+ both the projects and mentors (JanI)
+ timeframe + number of stundents would be appreciated
+ Septemeber 15 - deadline for the projects
+ end of September - students vote
+ mid-October start
+ end of February - evaluation
+ no ability to select students, students pick project (JanI)
+ skills?
+ last (or 1 before last) year students
+ can do C++ too
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
=> timeout for 2 weeks.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
master linux rel jobs: 100 ok: 92 ko: 8 fail ratio: 8.00 % break: 4 broken duration: 1.90%
master linux dbg jobs: 80 ok: 73 ko: 7 fail ratio: 8.75 % break: 6 broken duration:12.01%
master mac rel jobs: 87 ok: 81 ko: 4 fail ratio: 4.60 % break: 3 broken duration: 2.26%
master mac dbg jobs: 86 ok: 81 ko: 4 fail ratio: 4.65 % break: 3 broken duration: 2.13%
master win rel jobs: 75 ok: 71 ko: 4 fail ratio: 5.33 % break: 2 broken duration: 1.38%
master win dbg jobs: 80 ok: 75 ko: 5 fail ratio: 6.25 % break: 2 broken duration: 1.64%
master win64 dbg jobs: 83 ok: 77 ko: 5 fail ratio: 6.02 % break: 2 broken duration: 1.74%
lo-5.2 mac jobs: 11 ok: 11 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
lo-5.1 mac jobs: 3 ok: 3 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
gerrit win rel jobs: 124 ok: 111 ko: 13 fail ratio:10.48%
gerrit lin rel jobs: 125 ok: 103 ko: 21 fail ratio:16.80%
gerrit mac rel jobs: 123 ok: 108 ko: 15 fail ratio:12.20%
gerrit clangplug jobs: 148 ok: 79 ko: 69 fail ratio:46.62%
gerrit all jobs: 160 ok: 94 ko: 65 fail ratio:40.62%
* l10n (Sophie)
+ nothing new this week
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 678
+ enhancements: 80
+ in ux-advise: 0
+ needsUXEval: 53
+ needAdvice at 65
+ Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
+ tdf#97191 - AutoCorrect entry of Emoji using : to define is conflicting with entry
of time in format HH:MM:SS
+ New users are running into this bug frequently
+ tdf#101220 - Fonts subset into PDF are not being used to render PDF to canvas, receive
questionable fallback replacement
+ Several dupes
+ tdf#86926 - FILEOPEN: page format ignored on DOCX import
+ Regression from 4.x era
+ Mail merge regressions: http://tdf.io/mmregressions
+ 2 open; 2 open last meeting
+ bugs suggested for attention by Cor: tdf#62717, tdf#86926, tdf#89760, tdf#92837, tdf#94319,
tdf#97597, tdf#101220, tdf#97191
+ highlighted by Robinson already (Bjoern)
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+119 -106 (+13 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Caolán McNamara 8
V Stuart Foote 8
Alex Thurgood 8
Eike Rathke 7
Yousuf (Jay) Philips 7
Heiko Tietze 7
Aron Budea 6
Tor Lillqvist 4
Laurent BP 4
Markus Mohrhard 3
steve -_- 3
Julien Nabet 3
Buovjaga 3
Cor Nouws 2
m.a.riosv 2
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 1/16 - 6%
5.1: 2/30 - 6%
5.0: 7/53 - 13%
4.4: 7/73 - 9%
4.3: 5/69 - 7%
4.2: 8/133 - 6%
4.1: 4/79 - 5%
4.0: 8/82 - 9%
old: 31/246 - 12%
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ 325/1390 325/1383 325/1383 333/1383 340/1383 348/1382 353/1378 359/1378 362/1374 364/1371
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 686(-2) bugs open of 5115(+25) total 8(-2) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Writer - 3 (-1)
Calc - 2 (-1)
Impress - 1 (+0)
LibreOffice - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 212 (-1)
Calc - 121 (-2)
Impress - 53 (+0)
LibreOffice - 45 (+1)
graphics stack - 41 (+2)
UI - 37 (+0)
Borders - 31 (+0)
Base - 31 (+0)
Crashes - 29 (-2)
Draw - 27 (+0)
filters and storage - 23 (+2)
Chart - 16 (+1)
Printing and PDF export - 13 (+1)
BASIC - 10 (-1)
Linguistic - 4 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
framework - 2 (-1)
Formula Editor - 1 (-2)
sdk - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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