Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-03

Heiko Tietze tietze.heiko at googlemail.com
Fri Jun 3 13:25:20 UTC 2016


Present: 
    + Heiko, Kendy, Akshay, Susobhan, Bubli, Jay, Samuel

Easy hack that need code pointers
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53391 (draw save as 
presentation)

Google Summer of Code

  * Template Manager (Akshay)
        + List view for Template manager tdf#63256
            + what is the benefit? (Jay)
                + users demand that - to see the paths, and fit more on the 
screen (Samuel)
                + inspired by a bugreport (Samuel)
            + the main point is to see the previews (Jay)
                + scrolling not an issue - there is 'search' (Jay)
            + of course file manager has a different demands, there it makes 
sense (Jay)
            + could be done: split view - list on the left, previews on the 
right (Heiko)
        + Removal of bottom controls in Template Selection dialog + other 
controls to be added
        + is that on by default (that every user sees that when launching 
impress)? (Kendy)
            + it is off by default, happy about that (Kendy)
                + prefer a button in a toolbar (or something), instead of 
starting
                  with a modal dialog (Kendy)
            + should be on by default with easy means of disabling (Jay)
                + would prefer a re-think of how people create documents 
(Kendy)
                + ie. how the people open "presentation app"
                + or info bar - but I hate modal dialogs ;-) (Kendy)
                + have a doc about the 'new document interaction' (Jay)
                    + https://drive.google.com/open?
id=1Ri2jznhcQmCtk3cVygEhwN7pi8FkbIVV_OvRQce_n6Y
        + template wizard removed in master (Samuel)
            + but decided not to touch 5.2 (Samuel)
            + past the feature freeze anyway, would need some additional 
approvals (Kendy)
        + probably not a prio now? (Heiko)
            + let's involve the original bugreporters, and check with them if 
the improved template
              manager now fits their needs (Jay / Samuel)
            + will comment in the bug (Samuel)

  * Progress of Area Fill project (Rishabh)
      + Bubli is concerned about feature loss when CMYK would be removed
      + Keep the code and remove the access to it UI-wise; not simple because 
there are some bugs
        + Option 1: Do it, decided by UX team - (samuel, jay, heiko)
        + Option 2: Ask via design ML
        + Option 3: Ask via G+ survey - (bubli)
        -> remove access in the UI, keep the code to be removed later
        -> tell people in the upcoming blog post
      + Color picker needs some time
      + Pattern: large number of predefined patterns to aim for compatibility 
or have a smaller number for simplicity
      + Hatching: remove this in favor of (better) patterns

  * Progress of Sidebar Improvements (Susobhan)
      + Still working on page deck, header/footer panel
      + Input from Writer hacker is needed
      + Two panels under review (page format - goes into master, page margin - 
issue with duplicated code)
      + Page content panel on Properties deck will be removed soon; new page 
deck is comming
      + Planned: outstanding issues in area panel - https://
bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90078

Enhancements and proposals
  * Automatic creation of screenshots (bubli)
    + Automatically create screenshots of every LibO dialog; manual 
screenshots will be an addition, + screenshot annotation
    + https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2015/12/16/tender-for-automated-helpdocumentation-screenshot-creation-201512-06/
    + Mockup follows next week (bubli)
 
Gallery: Integration of additional symbol sets
      * Wallpaper added to whiteboard
      * Computer/Network added to whiteboard
 
Draw
  * META/SUPERMETA
    + renamed SUB META into META and two META into SUPER
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?
component=Draw&list_id=613931&query_format=advanced&resolution=---
&short_desc=[META]%20[SUPER]&short_desc_type=anywordssubstr
  * Statistics (2011..2015)
    + Number of new enhancements 12, 19, 18, 21, (32)
    + Number of closed enhancements 11, 15, 16, 12, (14)

UX
  * ux-advise statistics (2011..2016)
    + New tickets: 12,7,28,97,202,(36)
    + Closed tickets: 4,5,16,61,60,(6)
  * needsUXEval statistics (2011..2016)
    + New tickets: 7,3,2,10,8,(43)
    + Closed tickets: 1,0,0,1,2,(6)  

Events
    + Registered for LibO Conf (Heiko)
    + Talk about "How users operate LibreOffice Draw" (https://docs.google.com/
document/d/160R5eO1P2We5wPJoXjOsC1bmCFDJDZyXr-CeN75noJE/edit?usp=sharing )
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