(old) minutes of ESC call... (2017-07-20)
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Thu Jul 27 12:19:20 UTC 2017
I've heard on the IRC that the minutes from 2017-07-20 were not sent to
the ML; here they are:
* Present:
+ Lionel, Caolan, Heiko, Miklos, Olivier, Xisco, Michael M, Kendy,
Armin, Jan-Marek, Bubli, Christian, Michael S, Thorsten, Theodore
* Volunteers to use the public numbers:
+ Cloph, Bubli
* Completed Action Items:
+ add wiki page with plan for live-screenshots (Olivier)
[ https://wiki.docume ntfoundation.org/Development/ScreenshotsAtInstall
summary of the issue here, needs a plan here.
Had a brief call with Armin (Bubli)
+ some 2-3 days to get flicker-free screenshot experience
+ altogether some 2-3 weeks of work for a UNO service
dlg id → screenshot.
AI: work out what a good idea is here (Kendy, Thorsten)
+ ideal not to create these not at install-time,
but when the user needs the screenshot.
+ easy to do inside the application; but not in the browser
the user can navigate to anything.
Buggy graphics card (Lionel)
+ if display not what it should be, help would also be bad.
Trying to solve future problems (Thorsten)
+ could we do it iteratively, a few screenshots
but not overbearing size of them
+ if we multiply screenshots * 70 languages (Olivier)
+ requirement of tender to add 5 screenshots (Bubli)
+ can be done by the community, ongoing work (Olivier)
+ not convinced of the immediate need for lots of technical work here
until we have more screenshots (Thorsten) ]
* Pending Action Items:
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.4.0 final - RC3
+ tagging this week – later today.
+ 9 patches waiting in gerrit to be reviewed
+ after call start prepping translations &
then do the tag 10pm Berlin time.
+ last minute issues:
+ have a text rendering fix for 5.4.0 RC3 …
+ no text displayed at all in Virtual Machines ? (Michael S)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40211/ from Tomaz to fix.
+ can’t reproduce the problem (Christian)
+ input from Michaael S much appreciated.
+ can we delay until tomorrow ?
+ feature pages: please update:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.4
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+branch:libreoffice-5-4-0
+ 5.3.5 RC2
+ next week, nothing special here
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ online
* Tender oversight (Florian)
+ request for engineers to help review TDF tenders &
assess results
+ must not be affiliated with a tendering company etc.
+ please contact Florian – hopefully he’s here next time.
+ ideally we have a list of tenders to help out with there (Thorsten)
+ mostly C++ bits, one or two web ones.
+ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/b-log/category/tenders/ (superset)
+ propose re-visit next week.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ finished help on line (for master 6.0)
+ handover to designers to make it pretty …
+ Beatrice + Buovjaga are working on this (Bubli)
+ blog post about it:
+ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2017/07/19/taming-libreoffice-help-system/
+ depends on https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/39264/ to go master
+ could we do a re-direct on the web-server instead ? (Christian)
+ but all traffic will go to the new website (Olivier)
+ but don’t have 5.3 just master (Olivier)
+ version is in the URL – so can do it (Kendy)
+ but ok with the gerrit patch for 6.0
+ fixed in help content (typos and correction from translators)
+ Resumed teamwork for editing Getting started Guide for release 6.0
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
258(258) (topicUI) bugs open, 473(473) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 1(-1) 9(-3) 36(-2) 403(-3)
commented 23(1) 131(-20) 529(-13) 3325(1)
removed 0(0) 2(-1) 6(0) 42(-1)
resolved 5(5) 12(0) 38(1) 248(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
Thomas Lendo made 157 changes in 1 month, and 384 changes in 1 year
Philips, Yousuf made 75 changes in 1 month, and 1524 changes in 1 year
Tietze, Heiko made 45 changes in 1 month, and 1510 changes in 1 year
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 37 changes in 1 month, and 448 changes in 1 year
Henschel, Regina made 14 changes in 1 month, and 137 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 13 changes in 1 month, and 571 changes in 1 year
Buovjaga made 12 changes in 1 month, and 360 changes in 1 year
Zolnai, Tamás made 9 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
Timur made 8 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year
Pinto, Marco A.G. made 6 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
+ Ticket count should be lower.
+ Mail from Roberto Andres, student at the university of Madrid
sent to various people separately: I replied with a reference to our
landing page at the wiki and many other links and tips
+ forwarded from lots of different people; work for this thesis
+ has been take care of by Heiko.
+ Complaints on Telegram about line spacing
+ 5.3.4 breaking +400 documents
+ http://imgur.com/a/W48uX
+ related to Khaled’s work
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105860
+ report to TDF bugzilla recommended (Miklos)
+ already have reports for this sort of thing (Xisco)
+ previous decision was to keep Khaled’s patch
+ since it gets more consistent cross platform.
+ could add a compatibility setting in writer (Michael S)
+ pass it into VCL & somehow adapt it – as before, but …
that requires someone to do it – and someon with a Mac
+ enough open Mac bugs currently (Michael M)
+ guy on Windows 7 & Kubuntu are his platforms (Heiko)
AI: + build a write-up of the differences cross-platform (Xisco)
AI: + get access for Xisco for the TDF macs or buy a Mac for Xisco (Christian)
+ Messed up with the splash screen size for 6.0 ; will fix-up next week
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 25(+23) import failure, 578(+572) export failures
+ numbers gone extremely high – mostly in PPT export
+ trying to reproduce – not showing anything …
+ could it be scheduler changes having issues with the harness ?
+ Stephan pushed a fix related to scheduler & re-started
+ currently a high number related to the scheduler.
+ if reproducible can look (Jmux)
+ there is a script (Caolan)
+ if we shrink the pool to 50-60 docs its fine.
+ otherwise test-case – is: wait for an hour + half.
+ is it possible to re-direct stderr (Michael S)
+ look for assertion failure strings, to figure out why it is crashing ?
+ see at least two of these in unit tests
+ currently built without debugging (Caolan)
+ can try turning on if it fails again.
+ oss-fuzz: 31 fuzzers active.
+ temp breakage after emf+ changes, fixed now
+ coverity: 16(-5)
+ down slightly
* Hackfests & Events (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Akademy: 22nd-27th July (Thorsten)
+ Xisco, Gabriele, Jeff, Shinnok and Franklin attending.
+ We’ll run a booth over the weekend
+ GUADEC: 28th July - 2nd Aug (Michael)
* Call for Papers for the LibreOffice conference
+ deadline August 15th.
+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/2017/call-for-papers-3/
* mentoring/easyhack update (Shinnok)
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 0(0) 0(0) 115(-1) 124(0)
reviews 0(0) 0(0) 2365(-295) 14507(-383)
merged 0(0) 0(0) 1167(-163) 8755(-145)
abandoned 0(0) 0(0) 62(-4) 517(-8)
own commits 186(169) 263(151) 2755(-101) 15291(-55)
review commits 23(19) 30(19) 534(-30) 3063(-38)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 0(0) 0(0) 56(0) 59(0)
reviews 0(0) 0(0) 2415(-317) 16715(-300)
merged 0(0) 0(0) 160(-30) 992(-20)
abandoned 0(0) 0(0) 18(-4) 210(-2)
own commits 14(10) 20(12) 218(-19) 829(-16)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 24(24) needsUXEval 0(0) cleanup_comments 187(187)
total 233(233) assigned 16(16) open 190(190)
+ top 5 contributors:
Dewan Aditya made 6 patches in 1 month, and 31 patches in 1 year
Carl, Jens made 4 patches in 1 month, and 74 patches in 1 year
Prajapati Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
Dennis Francis made 1 patches in 1 month, and 1 patches in 1 year
Johnny_M made 1 patches in 1 month, and 32 patches in 1 year
+ top 5 reviewers:
made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
Jonatham E. Snow made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
Frank Fuchs made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
Montane, Joan made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Ivan Safonov insafonov at gmail.com
Paul Trojahn paul.trojahn at gmail.com
Dennis Francis dennis.francis at collabora.co.uk
Tamas Bunth tamas.bunth at collabora.co.uk
+ trying to find an Easy Hack to go through the flow
+ have a couple of potential ones
+ found some Mac build issues vs. master
+ check tinderbox for that hash ? (Michael)
+ leaving to travel to aKademy ~now.
+ SSRLabs Interns (Michael)
+ two ~arrived so far.
+ hard to spot their E-mails (Shinnok)
+ shouldn’t special case them anyway (Michael)
* GSoC update (Thorsten / Markus / JanI)
+ Second evaluation next week
+ timeline:
+ July 24 - second evaluation
+ August 21- 29: pens down, wrap up
+ August 29 - September 5: final evaluations of students
+ September 6: passing projects announced
* crash reporter news (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.3.2
+ 2222 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.4.2
+ 2789 (last 7 days)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.0.2
+ 14 (last 7 days)
+ Open bugs with a signature : 35 (+3)
+ http://bit.ly/2qZIC1H
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ sleeping for 10 weeks
* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
+ OSX gerrit verification won’t be back before September, 6th
+ Regular connection problems between buildbots and gerrit
from:Thu Jul 13 16:27:07 2017
master linux rel jobs: 188 ok: 183 ko: 5 fail ratio: 2.66 % break: 3 broken duration: 0.57%
master linux dbg jobs: 151 ok: 134 ko: 14 fail ratio: 9.27 % break: 6 broken duration: 9.09%
master mac rel jobs: 178 ok: 152 ko: 26 fail ratio: 14.61 % break: 9 broken duration:10.79%
master mac dbg jobs: 187 ok: 159 ko: 27 fail ratio: 14.44 % break: 9 broken duration: 7.99%
master win rel jobs: 107 ok: 92 ko: 15 fail ratio: 14.02 % break: 8 broken duration: 7.82%
master win dbg jobs: 106 ok: 84 ko: 22 fail ratio: 20.75 % break: 12 broken duration:14.73%
master win64 dbg jobs: 106 ok: 89 ko: 17 fail ratio: 16.04 % break: 9 broken duration:14.91%
lo-5.3 mac jobs: 11 ok: 11 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
lo-5.4 mac jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
branch gerrit all jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00%
master gerrit lin jobs: 465 ok: 410 ko: 54 fail ratio:11.61%
master gerrit plg jobs: 465 ok: 331 ko: 133 fail ratio:28.60%
master gerrit win jobs: 461 ok: 336 ko: 122 fail ratio:26.46%
master gerrit mac jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00%
master gerrit all jobs: 466 ok: 268 ko: 197 fail ratio:42.27%
* l10n (Christian)
+ change of gettext bits
+ pootle developers asked to hold off
+ may have found a way not to loose string history in pootle itself
+ did we get a timeline ? (Caolan)
+ sometime in next 3-4 weeks (Christian)
+ not holding up doing the change in master (Christian)
+ so – go ahead with changes ? (Caolan)
+ feel free to go ahead now (Christian)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 438 (+5)
+ enhancements: 59 (-1)
+ needsUXEval: 5 (+0)
+ haveBackTrace: 10 (+2)
+ needsDevAdvice: 32 (-1)
+ documentation: 2 (+0)
+ Android: 18
+ increasing number of Android issues – mostly enhancement bits.
+ Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
+ New:
+ Libreoffice crashes by deleting the internal variables, writer
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109197
+ 5.4.0.1
+ Regression from a706bb06d5326e7a997dd1d71f3f947bd0ad28e6
+ Noel to have a look.
+ Older:
+ CALC - crashes on COPYing 3+ whole rows to clipboard with OpenGL
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108299
+ crash-reporter shows similar issues:
Windows - dumping clipboard to OS before final exit.
+ shutdown / exit ordering nightmare wrt. Clipboard
+ apparently exacerbated by OpenGL
+ CRASH - SEGFAULT 11 attempting to open any document on Mac / master
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108793
+ NEEDINFO → already fixed ?
+ Tamas Bund on it.
+ Fixed:
+ Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2,
older AMD and Intel GPUs
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166
+ zero sized rectangles poisons some GDI backends.
+ any follow-on issues need separating into a shorter bug.
+ fixed – thanks to Tomaz Vajngerl
+ CRASH: Crash after undo operation (BigPtrArray::Index2Block(...
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107975
+ 2903d85d6197829633d7f96c95cd55821c2c20ff reverted.
+ Thanks to Michael S.
+ Crash in: SfxItemPool::IsInRange(unsigned short)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108881
+ Thanks to Dennis Francis
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+124 +0 (-114) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Xisco Faulí 28
Timur 10
Eike Rathke 8
Heiko Tietze 4
Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) 4
Yousuf Philips (jay) 4
Adolfo Jayme 3
Tamás Zolnai 3
Dennis Francis 3
Caolán McNamara 3
Mike Kaganski 3
V Stuart Foote 3
m.a.riosv 2
Gabor Kelemen 2
Alex Thurgood 2
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Marco A.G.Pinto 7
Gabor Kelemen 7
Thomas Lendo 6
Telesto 4
krishna [:kr1shna] 3
Timur 3
Szymon Kłos 2
Kenneth Hanson 2
bunkem 2
Robert Orzanna 2
Michael Meeks 1
Elmar 1
tommy27 1
Regina Henschel 1
Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) 1
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Marco A.G.Pinto 7
Gabor Kelemen 7
Thomas Lendo 6
Telesto 4
krishna [:kr1shna] 3
Timur 3
Szymon Kłos 2
Kenneth Hanson 2
bunkem 2
Robert Orzanna 2
Michael Meeks 1
Elmar 1
tommy27 1
Regina Henschel 1
Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) 1
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
5.3 : 3/42 - 7 % (-2)
5.2 : 2/37 - 5 % (+0)
5.1 : 1/34 - 2 % (+0)
5.0 : 2/60 - 3 % (+0)
4.4 : 4/76 - 5 % (+0)
4.3 : 6/73 - 8 % (+0)
4.2 : 6/134 - 4 % (+0)
4.1 : 4/82 - 4 % (+0)
4.0 : 5/82 - 6 % (+0)
old : 28/256 - 10 % (+0)
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ 378/1488 385/1485 376/1471 368/1458 372/1448 383/1441 386/1435
done by:
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco 4
Budea, Áron 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ 468/2075 475/2071 466/2056 457/2042 463/2032 470/2018 473/2008
done by:
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco 5
Budea, Áron 2
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 861(+1) bugs open of 6155(+15) total 14(+1) high prio.
done by:
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco 7
Alex Thurgood 3
Timur 2
tommy27 2
Budea, Áron 2
MM 1
Alex ARNAUD 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
LibreOffice - 4(+0)
Writer - 3(+0)
Calc - 3(+1)
Impress - 2(+0)
graphics stack - 1(+0)
Extensions - 1(+0)
by OS:
Linux - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+1)
All - 8(+0)
Mac OS X - 4(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 141(+0)
Calc - 137(-1)
Impress - 80(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 72(-1)
LibreOffice - 69(+1)
UI - 46(-1)
Writer: doc filter - 42(-1)
graphics stack - 40(+0)
Draw - 35(+0)
Base - 34(+2)
Writer: perf - 32(-1)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Borders - 30(+0)
Chart - 24(+1)
filters and storage - 22(+0)
Crashes - 20(+2)
Printing and PDF export - 17(+0)
BASIC - 14(+1)
Extensions - 4(+0)
Installation - 3(+0)
framework - 3(+1)
Linguistic - 2(+0)
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