Minutes of ESC call 2017-07-27

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Thu Jul 27 14:51:28 UTC 2017


* Present:
    + Armin, Caolan, Eike, Heiko, Shinnok, Xisco, Kendy, Jan-Marek, Marina,
      Sophie, Cloph, Olivier, Michael S.

* Volunteers to use the public numbers:
    + Cloph, Bubli

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ScreenshotsAtInstall
        + work out what a good idea is here (Kendy, Thorsten)
    + build a write-up of the differences cross-platform (Xisco)
    + get access for Xisco for the TDF macs or buy a Mac for Xisco (Christian)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 5.4.0 final – RC4
        + RC4 hotfix on Windows was necessary,
        + on the mirrors now
        + re-do all the builds with the hotfix tag, makes it easier for the updater
        + hotfix really helped, all testers happy (Xisco)
        + feature pages: please update:
          + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.4
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+branch:libreoffice-5-4-0 
    + 5.3.5 RC2
        + this week
        + 5-6 patches pending, your +1’s appreciated! (Cloph)
        + if you have anything urgent that should go there, pleaes act quickly 
          (Cloph)
    + Android & iOS Remote
    + Android viewer
        + updated the baseline to clang
        + to be deployed for the beta testers shortly
    + online

* Tender oversight (Florian)
    + Need some developers not affiliated with the tenders – to evaluate (Cloph)
    + request for engineers to help review TDF tenders &
      assess results
    + must not be affiliated with a tendering company etc.
    + please contact Florian (floeff at documentfoundation.org) if you’re intereste
      – hopefully he’s here next time.
    + ideally we have a list of tenders to help out with there (Thorsten)
       + mostly C++ bits, one or two web ones.
       + https://blog.documentfoundation.org/b-log/category/tenders/ 
         (superset, latest four are the one in question)
       + propose re-visit next week.

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + Several new help pages on VBA support
       + 90% finished, couple of functions still pending
    + Several tweaks and fixes on online Help, by @buovjaga
       + big thanks!
       + much better to navigate now
       + supports tablets & mobiles now
       + still more beauty needed
    + Cross-linking Documentation – Ask – Helponline
       + concerned about using helponline.libreoffice.org in public (Kendy)
       + we’ll have to make a redirect when we migrate helponline.libreoffice.org →
         help.libreoffice.org
 AI:       + create redirect / transparent proxy so that we can use
             help.libreoffice.org directly even for the new stuff (Cloph)
    + New authors showing after Dave Barton’s call for help

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        260(260) (topicUI) bugs open, 451(451) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
             added      3(2)      8(-1)    33(-3)     378(-25)
         commented     64(41)   163(32)   528(-1)    3348(23) 
           removed      1(1)      1(-1)     4(-2)      43(1)  
          resolved     18(13)    25(13)    48(10)     264(16) 
    + top 10 contributors:
          Tietze, Heiko made 109 changes in 1 month, and 1560 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 64 changes in 1 month, and 395 changes in 1 year
          Philips, Yousuf made 61 changes in 1 month, and 1543 changes in 1 year
          Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 33 changes in 1 month, and 448 changes in 1 y.
          Foote, V Stuart made 21 changes in 1 month, and 580 changes in 1 year
          Henschel, Regina made 18 changes in 1 month, and 141 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 13 changes in 1 month, and 71 changes in 1 year
          Cor Nouws made 9 changes in 1 month, and 354 changes in 1 year
          Zolnai, Tamás made 9 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
          Budea, Áron made 9 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year

    + Terminology updates
      + Slide Master → Master Slide
          + concerned about the size of the change – help?; also MSO uses ‘slide 
            master’ (Kendy)
          + from l10n perspective, this is fine (Sophie)
            + 54 occurrences of “slide master” in helpcontent2 (Eike)
          + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40485/
      + Styles and Formatting → Styles 
          + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40487/

    + Running a poll on G+ about Impress default slide format 4:3 vs. 16:9
      + https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/Gv86jqr9qyf
      + poll started
      + would be good to spread it on the ML too – projects@ etc. (Xisco)
        /done (Heiko) 

    + Discussion about pivot tables
      + ‘refresh all’ requested but always up-to-date needed 
        or at least proper feedback if not
 
    + Planning a survey about what aspects are important for users
      + preview: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/783768
      + additionally asking about: other tools, how long being a user, 
        expertise, version, affiliation, TDF member, OS
      + what else?
      + suggestions so far: extensions, help, online/mobile versions
          + please have a look & if you want to add / remove questions, tell Heiko
          + to be finalized the next week
          + the idea is to have general questions, not “do you use pivot tables”
            or so.

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 22(-3) import failure, 579(+1) export failures
        + unfortunately still way too high on the Impress export :-(, will
          debug at some stage (Caolan)
    + 24 coverity issues
    + Google / ossfuzz: 31 fuzzers active now

* Hackfests & Events (Bjoern)
    + next venues / suggestions 
    + Akademy: 22nd-27th July (Thorsten)
        + Xisco, Gabriele, Jeff, Shinnok and Franklin attending.
            + We’ll run a booth over the weekend
        + was great
        + Franklin has several talks, run the booth
        + had an opportunity to interact with the KDE people, was great (Xisco)
        + sent a report to tdf-staff, will have a blog post (Shinnok)
    + GUADEC: 28th July - 2nd Aug (Michael)

* Call for Papers for the LibreOffice conference
    + deadline August 15th.
        + 2 weeks!!!
    + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2017/call-for-papers-3/

* mentoring/easyhack update (Shinnok)
          committer...   1 week     1 month    3 months     12 months    
                  open      0(0)        0(0)      109(-6)       124(0)   
               reviews      0(0)        0(0)     1976(-389)   14005(-502)
                merged      0(0)        0(0)      940(-227)    8572(-183)
             abandoned      0(0)        0(0)       38(-24)      493(-24) 
           own commits     18(-168)   244(-19)   2485(-270)   15036(-255)
        review commits      2(-21)     30(0)      490(-44)     2967(-96) 
        contributor...   1 week   1 month   3 months     12 months    
                  open     0(0)      0(0)       52(-4)        59(0)   
               reviews     0(0)      0(0)     2033(-382)   16349(-366)
                merged     0(0)      0(0)      143(-17)      984(-8)  
             abandoned     0(0)      0(0)       12(-6)       208(-2)  
           own commits     1(-13)   19(-1)     203(-15)      842(13)  
        review commits     0(0)      0(0)        0(0)          0(0)   
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 25(25)   needsUXEval 0(0)   cleanup_comments 188(188)   
       total 234(234)   assigned 16(16)   open 190(190)   
    + top 5 contributors:
          Dewan Aditya made 4 patches in 1 month, and 31 patches in 1 year
          Carl, Jens made 4 patches in 1 month, and 74 patches in 1 year
          Prajapati Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
          Ivan Safonov made 1 patches in 1 month, and 1 patches in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 1 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
    + top 5 reviewers:
          Kalle Heiman made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
          Antonello made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
          Kenny Kruger made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
          Bágyi, Barnabás made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year
           made 0 review comments in 1 month, and 0 in 1 year

    + ssrlabs – interns sent questions to the ML
        + answered how to setup the build environment, but just 1 answered back
        + Michael sent them a couple of ideas to work on (Heiko)
        + have a contact to the company (Heiko)
        + will send another follow-up (Shinnok)
            + waiting on Cloph too – Cloph will have a look (Shinnok / Cloph)

* GSoC update (Thorsten / Markus / JanI)
    + Second evaluation this week
    + please rate yourt student if you haven’t yet
    + timeline:
         + July 24 - second evaluation
         + August 21- 29: pens down, wrap up
         + August 29 - September 5: final evaluations of students
         + September 6: passing projects announced

* crash reporter news (Xisco)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.3.2
        + 2411 (last 7 days)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.4.2
        + 3025 (last 7 days)
        + 5.3.5 should be better (Xisco)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.0.2
        + 5 (last 7 days)
    + Open bugs with a signature : 35 (+3)
	 + http://bit.ly/2qZIC1H

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleeping for 9 weeks

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    + OSX gerrit verification won’t be back before September, 6th
    + from:Thu Jul 20 16:33:30 2017
    master linux rel  jobs: 162 ok: 145 ko:   4 fail ratio:  2.47 % break:   2 broken duration: 0.72%
    master linux dbg  jobs: 153 ok: 121 ko:  24 fail ratio: 15.69 % break:  16 broken duration:16.43%
    master mac rel    jobs: 149 ok: 134 ko:   8 fail ratio:  5.37 % break:   6 broken duration: 2.28%
    master mac dbg    jobs: 164 ok: 147 ko:  10 fail ratio:  6.10 % break:   8 broken duration: 8.24%
    master win rel    jobs: 116 ok:  75 ko:  38 fail ratio: 32.76 % break:  18 broken duration:35.10%
    master win dbg    jobs: 117 ok:  80 ko:  36 fail ratio: 30.77 % break:  16 broken duration:33.98%
    master win64 dbg  jobs: 113 ok:  84 ko:  27 fail ratio: 23.89 % break:  11 broken duration:19.65%
    lo-5.3 mac        jobs:   9 ok:   8 ko:   1 fail ratio: 11.11 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.19%
    lo-5.4 mac        jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    branch gerrit all jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 369 ok: 319 ko:  47 fail ratio:12.74%
    master gerrit plg jobs: 369 ok: 287 ko:  81 fail ratio:21.95%
    master gerrit win jobs: 365 ok: 257 ko: 108 fail ratio:29.59%
    master gerrit mac jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00%
    master gerrit all jobs: 376 ok: 224 ko: 146 fail ratio:38.83%

* l10n (Sophie/Christian)
    + working on the 5.4 press release – lot of work (Sophie)
    + gettext? (Kendy)
        + OK for people (Sophie)
        + but the switch of the pootle was not done yet (Cloph)

* QA update (Xisco)

    + UNCONFIRMED: 465 (+27)
        + enhancements: 57  (-2)
        + needsUXEval: 1 (-4)
        + haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 33 (+1)
        + documentation:  2 (+0)
        + has to catch up with UNCONFIRMED, called for help in the Tuesday’s
          meeting (Xisco)

    + Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
        + New:
          + Crash in: SfxItemPool::GetDefaultItem(unsigned short)
                +  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108887
                + Please review: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40278/

        + Older:
          + CALC - crashes on COPYing 3+ whole rows to clipboard with OpenGL
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108299
                + crash-reporter shows similar issues:
                  Windows - dumping clipboard to OS before final exit.
                + shutdown / exit ordering nightmare wrt. Clipboard
                + apparently exacerbated by OpenGL
             
 	  + Fixed:
          + CRASH - SEGFAULT 11 attempting to open any document on Mac / master
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108793 
                + Thanks to Tamas Bunth.

          + Libreoffice crashes by deleting the internal variables, writer
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109197
                + Thanks to Noel Grandin.

          + Printing omits all text
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109281
                + Thanks to Tomaž Vajngerl.


* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +146  -22 (-92) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Heiko Tietze            12
       Xisco Faulí             9
       Olivier Hallot          8
       Timur                   6
       Buovjaga                5
       Yousuf Philips (jay)    5
       V Stuart Foote          5
       Jean-Baptiste Faure     3
       Jan-Marek Glogowski     3
       Gabor Kelemen           3
       Michael Meeks           2
       Julien Nabet            2
       Dennis Francis          2
       Mike Kaganski           2
       Telesto                 2

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Yousuf Philips (jay)    12
       Heiko Tietze            9
       krishna [:kr1shna]      9
       Thomas Lendo            8
       Telesto                 5
       internationils          5
       Aron Budea              4
       Xisco Faulí             3
       Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  3
       Paul Trojahn            2
       Rosemary Sebastian      2
       c.buhtz                 2
       pavelz                  2
       Larsen                  2
       Richard Léger           2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Yousuf Philips (jay)    12
       Heiko Tietze            9
       krishna [:kr1shna]      9
       Thomas Lendo            8
       Telesto                 5
       internationils          5
       Aron Budea              4
       Xisco Faulí             3
       Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  3
       Paul Trojahn            2
       Rosemary Sebastian      2
       c.buhtz                 2
       pavelz                  2
       Larsen                  2
       Richard Léger           2


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     5.3 : 3/42 -     7 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 2/37 -     5 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/34 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 2/60 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 3/76 -     3 %  (-2)
     4.3 : 6/73 -     8 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 6/134 -    4 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 4/82 -     4 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 5/83 -     6 %  (+0)
     old : 28/256 -   10 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 380/1500 378/1488 385/1485 376/1471 368/1458 372/1448 383/1441 

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   6
        Budea, Áron             3
        Raal                    2
        Benes, Luke             1
 

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 468/2088 468/2075 475/2071 466/2056 457/2042 463/2032 470/2018 

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   8
        Budea, Áron             3
        Raal                    2


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 865(+4) bugs open of 6176(+21) total 11(-3) high prio.

     done by:
        Faulí Tarazona, Xisco   7
        tommy27                 3
        Raal                    2
        Budea, Áron             2
        Cor Nouws               1
        Henschel, Regina        1
        Alex ARNAUD             1
        Timur                   1
        Mehrbrodt, Samuel       1
        Telesto                 1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     LibreOffice   - 3(-1)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     Writer        - 2(-1)
     Calc          - 2(-1)
     Extensions    - 1(+0)
     Printing and PDF export - 1(+1)
     graphics stack - 0(-1)

   by OS:
     All           - 5(-3)
     Windows       - 2(+0)
     Linux         - 0(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 4(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 142(+1)
     Calc                     - 137(+0)
     Impress                  - 82(+2)
     Writer: docx filter      - 72(+0)
     LibreOffice              - 68(-1)
     UI                       - 48(+2)
     Writer: doc filter       - 42(+0)
     graphics stack           - 38(-2)
     Draw                     - 36(+1)
     Base                     - 34(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 33(+2)
     Writer: perf             - 31(-1)
     Borders                  - 30(+0)
     Chart                    - 23(-1)
     filters and storage      - 22(+0)
     Crashes                  - 21(+1)
     Printing and PDF export  - 18(+1)
     BASIC                    - 15(+1)
     Extensions               - 4(+0)
     Installation             - 3(+0)
     framework                - 3(+0)
     Linguistic               - 1(-1)




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