Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Dec-09

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Wed Dec 9 20:13:42 UTC 2020


Present: Sascha, Heiko
Comments: Octavio, Mike, Alain, Adolfo, Roman


Tickets/Topic

  * ClearDirectFormatting does not remove page break
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138628
    + introduce "Clear Special" dialog, and if so with what options
    + go with another UNO command with interaction similar to Save/SaveAs
    + page break can be seen as inserting objects but is formatting (Octavio)
    + introduce tools > option > ? to also clean page break (Mike)
    + simplicity first, most users don't expect PB to be deleted with DF
      so resolve WF (Heiko)
    + MSO behaves similar to LibreOffice and keeps page break (but also
      font highlighting) with "Clear All Formatting"
    + Clear DF means to delete everything so do it by default (Sascha)
    => comment and keep

  * UI: Merge Format Edit Sections with Insert Section
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138678
    + dialogs are okay, command might be better placed at Edit
    + agree, better located at Edit and two dialogs that are the same
      is weird and unnecessary (Sascha)
    + meaning the dialog has to respond on whether an existing section is
      selected (Edit) or a new name is added (Insert)
    + different UNO commands uno:InsertSection and uno:EditRegion and there
      is also uno:EditCurrentRegion
    => let's investigate if merging is possible

  * Fix the size (number of lines) of "input line" in Calc
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137849
    + easy to do and not violating UX but very special use case
      so maybe better suited for extension
      + seems not to be possible (Alain)
    + MSO Excel remembers the expanded state (Sascha)
    => let's do it

  * Use GtkSpinButton for .uno:FontHeight
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138533
    + have been introduced in addition to the font size combobox to easily
      in-/decrease the fone size
    + spin button means to replace the combobox and the +/- buttons
    + CJK uses special dropdown entries (Ming)
    + over-engineered controls, too large with Gtk (Adolfo, Roman)
    + looks nice and clean in the sidebar but for sake of consistency
      we'd have to change the toolbar as well and that's less appealing (Sascha)
    => reject for sidebar; NB can do it

  * three improvements in File > Templates and associated .uno commands
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138621
    + rename Open Template to Edit Template
      + both work for me (Heiko)
      + open is more precise since the template is not yet
        integrated into the template manager (Sascha)
    + icons in submenu sounds okay
      + add to guideline (AI: Heiko)
    + hide uno:TemplateManager from customization
    => make easyhackable

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