ESC meeting minutes: 2020-07-02

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Thu Jul 2 15:08:52 UTC 2020


* Present:
    + Sophie, Cloph, Gabriel, Thorsten, Heiko, Caolan, Ilmari, Michael W, Eike, Olivier, Stephan, Michael S, Xisco, Kendy

* Completed Action Items:
    + send the welcome committer mail to Yunusemre (Miklos)
    + grant gerrit commit access to Yunusemre (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:
    + put together some proposal on what are the benefits of a dev list move from FDO to TDF (William)
    + update the TDF wiki to advertise https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Shared/Common/esc-minutes (William)


* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.0 status
      + RC1 today
      + UI freeze & string freeze in the first week of July
      + there will be 3 RCs (Cloph)
        + RC2 in 2 weeks, RC3 in 4 weeks
    + 6.4 status
      + 6.4.5 was released as final today
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
    + Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
       + No news
    + HelpContents2
       + Fixes (erAck, ohallot)
       + New pages (LibreOfficiant, ohallot)
       + Question: Moving (slowly) <ahelp> to UI files (Glade)
          + use AtkObject::accessible-description in ui files
          + restore extended tips (thumbs up)
          + workload for translators (thumbs down)
          + unfortunately hard to do automatically :-(
             + looks like necessary to be done manually
             + would it be possible to collect manually and then process...
                + let's investigate it more...
                + Olivier will do - to make it transparent for the translators
    + Google Seasons of Doc
       + Application period running, deadline July 9th
    + Guides
       + Work on-onging for last 6.4 release and preparing 7.0
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130151
          + not possible to use Master documents unfortunately
          + but was just fixed today - thanks Samuel M.!

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        245(245) (topicUI) bugs open, 261(261) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
             added      7(-2)    18(-4)    43(-4)     165(0)  
         commented     79(24)   293(5)    956(1)     3535(18) 
           removed      2(2)      3(2)      7(1)       48(2)  
          resolved      8(0)     43(2)    134(3)      376(8)  
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 197 changes in 1 month, and 2119 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 48 changes in 1 month, and 608 changes in 1 year
          Telesto made 41 changes in 1 month, and 232 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 38 changes in 1 month, and 166 changes in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 28 changes in 1 month, and 556 changes in 1 year
          srijan bhatia made 26 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 22 changes in 1 month, and 458 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 21 changes in 1 month, and 521 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 21 changes in 1 month, and 225 changes in 1 year
          BogdanB made 19 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year

     * New tickets with needsUXEval Jun/25-Jul/02
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=7d&chfieldto=Now&keywords=needsUXEval

      * Enable word-wrap by default for shapes
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134369
        + needs to be tested if it affects old documents etc.

      * High UI scaling reveal triangles / arrows are too large
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134054
        + fixed by jmux
        + Thorsten backported to 6.4 - makes sense

* Crash Reporting (Caolan)
    + 5(+5) import failure, 61(+61) export failures
        + all import failures are in calc
        + most (all?) export failures are a recent identified regression
    + 14 coverity issues
        + one build succeeded, but subsequent ones don't seem to finish
    + 12 ossfuzz issues (10 timeouts)

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.6.2
        + (+94) 2188 2094 2327 1758 1376 858 668 529 283 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.2.2
        + (-246) 1641 1887 2095 2354 2731 3033 3501 3702 4322 5765 6869 6527 8046 6988 3716 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.3.2
        + (-430) 2195 2625 3411 3771 4896 6243 7540 6577 5725 4328 2199 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.4.2
        + (-250) 6607 6857 7333 5252 3670 1638 0

* GSoC 2020 (Ilmari)
    + This week the evaluations!!!
        + If you are a mentor and didn't send your review yet, please do today
    + Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/
    + June 1, 2020 - August 24, 2020: Students work on their projects
    + 6 projects accepted
    + the game is on, students are reporting more or less regularly
      + remind your students if it's not happening
    + 1st evaluation: June 29, 2020 - July 3, 2020 (this week)
    + no emergency observed so far
    + feature branch vs gerrit changes (Thorsten)
      + a combination of these works great
      + push once a day to the branch, but get the changes into master soon

* Virtual happening around conference time
    + board members suggested a virtual hackfest
    + after much soul-searching, Ilmari, Xisco and Christian came to the
      conclusion that it would not be up to the standard we have
      traditionally had for hackfests
    + what is special about hackfests, with potential for attracting new
      contributors? physical presence
    + what is special about a virtual hackfest? nothing - just another edition
      of what we do every day anyway
    + counter-proposal: questions & answers session in Jitsi regarding
      contributing
    + people send questions in advance
    + in the live event, only have slots for the topics which received
      questions (to avoid having people on standby for no reason)
    + encourage the people sending questions to join the session to ask further
      questions
    + allow random people to join and ask stuff related to the topic slots, but
      with no guarantee of real-time response (can send answers later)
    + Jitsi allows demos via screen sharing
    + who wants to join the panel of experts? don't have to present the answers
      live, if it's too much trouble
    + should we run this before or after the conference?
    + some specific pitch sounds like a good idea (Thorsten)
    + maybe some small event in Hamburk (Thorsten)
    + how long it should be? If ~hour, could be even part of the
      conference? (Kendy)
    + or something like the C++ training that were done previously? (Thorsten)
        + further questions after the sessions (Thorsten)
        + people in the talk would need to digest - and would be interested more
          in a day or two (Thorsten)
        + kind of an interactive hands-on (Ilmari)

* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months   
                  open     105(-28)    171(-27)    175(-24)     185(-24)
               reviews     536(8)     1800(-4)    4252(36)    20861(-90)
                merged     536(173)   1947(210)   5086(193)   19422(237)
             abandoned      26(1)       87(7)      289(15)     1052(4)  
           own commits     315(67)    1161(55)    3758(76)    15761(127)
        review commits      63(-47)    352(-97)   1147(-32)    4635(-26)
        contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months     12 months   
                  open       35(-8)      75(-1)       76(-4)       78(-4) 
               reviews     1620(314)   5254(264)   12526(460)   41868(664)
                merged       21(-16)    138(-45)     368(-8)     1008(11) 
             abandoned       13(4)       50(-3)      121(4)       574(5)  
           own commits       23(-43)    187(-83)     538(-24)    1315(7)  
        review commits        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)         0(0)  
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 227(227)   
       total 276(276)   assigned 23(23)   open 235(235)   
    + top 10 contributors:
          Johnny_M made 64 patches in 1 month, and 152 patches in 1 year
          LibreOfficiant made 16 patches in 1 month, and 140 patches in 1 year
          Steve Fanning made 16 patches in 1 month, and 86 patches in 1 year
          Gökay ŞATIR made 16 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
          yakovru made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 5 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
          Aditya Sahu made 5 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
          srijan bhatia made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
          Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
          Ahmad Ganzouri made 4 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Behrens, Thorsten made 240 review comments in 1 month, and 1356 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 206 review comments in 1 month, and 1170 in 1 year
          Timar, Andras made 156 review comments in 1 month, and 1381 in 1 year
          Olivier Hallot made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 558 in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 162 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 1053 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1376 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 860 in 1 year
          Németh, László made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 543 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 840 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#108059 Introduce compatibility key for pie chart orientation ( Gabor Kelemen )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/82524
        WIP Reuse {KF5,Qt5}FilePicker in gtk3_kde5 ( Alexander Volkov )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92464
        Use pragma once instead of include guards ( Fatih Budak )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92765
        tdf#132366 Writer enhancement that highlights search results ( Jim Raykowski )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92886
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Dante DM
          Igor Poboiko
          Wyatt Turner

* Commit Access
    + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 13 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
      inactive

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Jun 25 13:51:26 2020
    master linux rel  jobs:  49 ok:  49 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  46 ok:  43 ko:   3 fail ratio:  6.52 % break:   3 broken duration: 0.95%
    master mac rel    jobs:  60 ok:  60 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master mac dbg    jobs:  63 ok:  63 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win rel    jobs:  61 ok:  61 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win dbg    jobs:  68 ok:  68 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  64 ok:  64 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 556 ok: 490 ko:  39 fail ratio:  7.01% time for ok: mean:  22 median:  23
    master gerrit plg jobs: 475 ok: 360 ko:  83 fail ratio: 17.47% time for ok: mean:  31 median:  29
    master gerrit win jobs: 582 ok: 439 ko: 107 fail ratio: 18.38% time for ok: mean:  57 median:  56
    master gerrit mac jobs: 558 ok: 485 ko:  36 fail ratio:  6.45% time for ok: mean:  36 median:  33
    master gerrit all jobs: 500 ok: 316 ko: 140 fail ratio: 28.00% time for ok: mean: 103 median:  91
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200702.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
      3 CppunitTest_sd_export_ooxml2
      3 CppunitTest_sw_globalfilter
      3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlimport
      3 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export2
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export3
      6 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge
      6 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter
      6 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter
      6 UITest_writer_demo2
      7 UITest_calc_demo

* l10n (Sophie)
  + work is ongoing
  + cleaned xml syntax failing checks

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan: try it on master (Lubos)
    + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 4 (+1) open bugs, 80 total (+6)

* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
  + deadline to submit your talks: 21st July
  + what kind of S/W will be used for the presentations? (Stephan)
      + the same tool openSUSE will be using, discussing (Sophie)
      + one possibility is record & broadcast + Q/A later (Ilmari)

* Branding (Stephan)
  + What do we want the LO Flatpak version (that used to be provided directly
    at <https://www.libreoffice.org/download/flatpak/>, and is now at
    <https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice>) to be
    called?
  + As-is, the LO 7.0 Flatpak would say "Personal" and "Personal Edition" all
    over the place.
  + in discussion (Heiko)
  + TDF tagline - should be doable for Flatpak (Michael/Thorsten)
     + Stephan / Cloph in a team (Michael/Thorsten)
  + not urgent, Stephan not available immediately

* Remove "Support for very large spreadsheets" from ReleaseNotes (Xisco)
	- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.0#Support_for_very_large_spreadsheets
	- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134392#c6
    + Noel, the author, has suggested that (Xisco)
        + if the author suggested that, let's go for that (Kendy)
        + AI: Remove it (Xisco)

* Gerrit update planned
    + from Friday to Saturday; already tested, now for production

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 814 (+5)
        + enhancements: 92  (+0)
        + needsUXEval: 7 (-4)
        + haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 12 (+1)
        + documentation:  11 (+0)
        + android:  4 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  12 (+0)

    + Most pressing bugs:
        New:
                None
        Old:
       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

       + Opening ODS file rise Incorrect Format exception. Opened well with
         OpenOffice 4.1.3
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116079
           + regression from the fastparser gsoc work from 2016
          + Mohammed is no longer around, Julien is asking for tips

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates

    Fixed:
       + Binary URP bridge disposed during call to ServiceManager.createInstanceWithContext
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134106
           + Thanks to Stephan

    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + Drag and drop of text apply's to the begin of the line apply's wrong formatting
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132892
            + Ashod?

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +149  +70 (-148) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       QA Administrators       20
       Buovjaga                14
       Heiko Tietze            10
       Caolán McNamara         8
       Adolfo Jayme            7
       Timur                   7
       Julien Nabet            6
       Tünde Tóth              5
       Olivier Hallot          4
       V Stuart Foote          4

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 30
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   8
       Gerald Pfeifer          7
       NSO LibreOffice Team    5
       mwtjunkmail             4
       Kevin Suo               2
       Leandro Martín Drudi    2
       Rafael Lima             2
       Rizal Muttaqin          2
       Steve Fanning           2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 7
       McNamara, Caolán        7
       Olivier Hallot          4
       Tünde Tóth              4
       Nabet, Julien           3
       Grandin, Noel           2
       Melenchuk, Vasily       2
       Németh, László          2
       Rizal Muttaqin          2
       Szabolcs Tóth (NISZ)    2

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Xisco Fauli             30
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      14
       Nabet, Julien           12
       Dieter Praas            11
       Heiko Tietze            10
       Telesto                 9
       BogdanB                 5
       *UNKNOWN*               4
       Foote, V Stuart         3
       Raal                    3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 7/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 797/4452 788/4429 788/4400 773/4356 761/4308 745/4274 737/4241 

     done by:
        barakso.attila         7
        Xisco Fauli            7
        Telesto                4
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
        锁琨珑                    1
 

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 990/5335 977/5308 977/5276 956/5224 943/5169 924/5130 917/5096 

     done by:
        barakso.attila         7
        Xisco Fauli            7
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     5
        Telesto                4
        BogdanB                2
        Terrence Enger         1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1185(+15) bugs open of 9856(+31) total 15(-1) high prio.

     done by:
        Telesto               12
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     5
        Dieter Praas           2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Madero, Joel           1
        Raal                   1
        锁琨珑                    1
        Foote, V Stuart        1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 10(+0)
     Calc          - 3(-1)
     Impress       - 2(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 12(-1)
     Linux         - 1(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 350(+4)
     Calc                     - 220(+0)
     Impress                  - 138(+3)
     LibreOffice              - 58(+0)
     Writer: docx filter      - 54(-1)
     Crashes                  - 49(-3)
     Draw                     - 46(+3)
     Borders                  - 43(+0)
     UI                       - 43(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 41(+2)
     Base                     - 29(+1)
     Writer: doc filter       - 27(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 27(+0)
     graphics stack           - 27(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 25(+0)
     Chart                    - 23(+0)
     RTL                      - 22(+0)
     filters and storage      - 21(+0)
     BASIC                    - 14(+1)
     Installation             - 2(+0)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(-1)


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