ESC meeting minutes: 2020-10-08
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Oct 8 14:44:00 UTC 2020
* Present:
+ Heiko, Michael W, Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Stephan, Olivier, Miklos, Xisco, Michael S, Eike, Gabriel, Justin
* Completed Action Items:
+ None
* Pending Action Items:
+ None
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.0 status
+ 7.0.2: released as final earlier today
+ 7.0.3 rc1 is in 3 weeks
+ 6.4 status
+ 6.4.7: rc2 builds are in progress (last scheduled release)
+ 7.1 Release plan added to the wiki
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/7.1
+ alpha1 week 43 (Oct 19)
+ beta1/7-1 branch: week 47 (Nov 16)
+ string/UI-freeze: week 51 (Dec 14)
+ later releases are a little more timed apart
+ moved 7.0.5 and 7.0.6 back one week to avoid overlap
+ shout/complain if that doesn’t fit
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ HEADS UP!: please fill “extended tips” when you touch dialogs *.ui
+ use “extended_tip” as part of the string’s context attribute (convention, not requirement)
+ Extended tips are stored in “acessible-description” field in “acessibility” tab
+ Use Glade 3.36 minimum
+ https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-September/086008.html
+ a11y howto will be added to the wiki (Olivier)
+ help contents2
+ Updates and refactor by S. Chaiklin, T. Stewart, Johnny_M, gar Soul, ohallot
+ Google seasons of Doc
+ Wiki Calc help: on going
+ Advanced Calc E-Learning: On going
+ adjusting Moodle instance
+ Guides
+ progressing
+ New Authors coming for Guide update
+ Finished front and back covers for 7.0 versions.
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
244(244) (topicUI) bugs open, 260(260) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 7(-4) 26(-7) 61(-5) 170(-3)
commented 114(5) 430(26) 1050(1) 3837(48)
removed 0(-2) 5(-3) 8(-4) 55(-3)
resolved 21(4) 71(13) 125(10) 425(12)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 351 changes in 1 month, and 2246 changes in 1 year
Telesto made 90 changes in 1 month, and 568 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 88 changes in 1 month, and 621 changes in 1 year
BogdanB made 74 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
Kainz, Andreas made 70 changes in 1 month, and 489 changes in 1 year
Dieter Praas made 48 changes in 1 month, and 515 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 44 changes in 1 month, and 276 changes in 1 year
Thomas Lendo made 26 changes in 1 month, and 136 changes in 1 year
Seth Chaiklin made 23 changes in 1 month, and 181 changes in 1 year
Timur made 21 changes in 1 month, and 251 changes in 1 year
* New tickets with needsUXEval Oct/02-Oct/08
* Improve pivot table workflow and usage
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137321
* Not possible to edit any fields inserted from Docinformation tab
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137298
-> * Table of Contents dialog is too large
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137269
* Edit --> Fields... fails to highlight or otherwise indicate the current
field while navigating forward and backward, making locating the field
in question cumbersome and slow.
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137210
+ Add "Color Replacer" to Writer (currently it only exists in
Draw/Impress)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137214
* there is no project container for combination of all LO-formats, odm is
limited to writer
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137207
=> in discussion
* Opening a PPS (File -> Open -> PPS) automatically starts the
presentation (expected edit mode)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137283
=> DUP
* View > User Interface > submenu replaced by a dialog (first tip
recommending to pick a UI executes this dialog)
+ resolves https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117463
+ UNO commands can be attached to tips now
* Crash testing (Caolan)
+ 7(+1) import failure, 0(-1) export failures
+ 0 coverity issues
+ 10 ossfuzz issues
+ all timeouts
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
+ (-94) 1510 1604 1618 1744 1814 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
+ (+214) 1778 1564 1306 1053 874 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
+ (-185) 3767 3952 4171 5084 6489 3840 788 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.1.2
+ (+2037) 6598 4561 3223 1986 0
+ last week a patch was submitted to fix one of the top 5 crashes, let’s see (Xisco)
+ no steps reproduce, a blind fix
* Mentoring/easyhack update
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 67(-28) 127(-13) 128(-13) 137(-13)
reviews 450(-136) 1754(-158) 4564(-54) 19487(-163)
merged 347(-42) 1724(-47) 4910(-231) 19839(-123)
abandoned 35(15) 104(20) 244(20) 1055(15)
own commits 266(-39) 1294(-35) 3657(-163) 16050(-253)
review commits 57(-52) 354(-93) 1146(-38) 4767(-84)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 26(-5) 65(-2) 66(-2) 69(-1)
reviews 992(-88) 4194(-242) 11968(-761) 45450(-86)
merged 26(2) 106(-41) 362(-19) 1585(21)
abandoned 4(1) 18(-7) 96(-13) 558(3)
own commits 28(-1) 120(-40) 465(-32) 1661(20)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 2(2) cleanup_comments 245(245)
total 291(291) assigned 14(14) open 256(256)
+ top 10 contributors:
Johnny_M made 15 patches in 1 month, and 307 patches in 1 year
George Bateman made 10 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
Alain Romedenne made 7 patches in 1 month, and 147 patches in 1 year
Weblate made 7 patches in 1 month, and 73 patches in 1 year
Regényi Balázs made 7 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
Attila Szűcs made 6 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
Dániel Arató made 5 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
Tomofumi Yagi made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Timar, Andras made 204 review comments in 1 month, and 1524 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 160 review comments in 1 month, and 1442 in 1 year
McNamara, Caolán made 136 review comments in 1 month, and 828 in 1 year
Behrens, Thorsten made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 1370 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 1306 in 1 year
Németh, László made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 650 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 808 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 920 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 1146 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 944 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#124176 Replace include guards with #pragma once ( George Bateman )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/100027
Draw/Impress: Enable "Fit to Page" by default ( Samuel Mehrbrodt )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/100173
- change of default, good to have a ticket/discussion first (Heiko)
tdf#134742 Distinguishing all CJK fonts such as Noto CJK Fonts. ( DaeHyun Sung )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/99951
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Nikhil Varghese
Triveni
Travis Stewart
* Commit Access
+ None
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ sleep 0 weeks
+ seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently inactive
+ now is the time to start building a new proposal (Thorsten)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
from:Thu Oct 1 13:24:25 2020
master linux rel jobs: 44 ok: 41 ko: 3 fail ratio: 6.82 % break: 2 broken duration: 2.19%
master linux dbg jobs: 41 ok: 28 ko: 13 fail ratio: 31.71 % break: 3 broken duration:34.56%
master mac rel jobs: 84 ok: 81 ko: 3 fail ratio: 3.57 % break: 1 broken duration: 1.57%
master mac dbg jobs: 92 ok: 89 ko: 3 fail ratio: 3.26 % break: 1 broken duration: 1.50%
master win rel jobs: 59 ok: 57 ko: 2 fail ratio: 3.39 % break: 1 broken duration: 1.19%
master win dbg jobs: 59 ok: 56 ko: 3 fail ratio: 5.08 % break: 1 broken duration: 1.34%
master win64 dbg jobs: 60 ok: 57 ko: 3 fail ratio: 5.00 % break: 1 broken duration: 1.23%
master gerrit lin jobs: 544 ok: 430 ko: 92 fail ratio: 16.91% time for ok: mean: 21 median: 22
master gerrit plg jobs: 536 ok: 324 ko: 163 fail ratio: 30.41% time for ok: mean: 37 median: 35
master gerrit win jobs: 562 ok: 410 ko: 91 fail ratio: 16.19% time for ok: mean: 67 median: 60
master gerrit mac jobs: 543 ok: 431 ko: 82 fail ratio: 15.10% time for ok: mean: 30 median: 28
master gerrit all jobs: 541 ok: 294 ko: 175 fail ratio: 32.35% time for ok: mean: 116 median: 105
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_201008.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
3 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
3 CppunitTest_xmlsecurity_signing gerrit_windows
5 CppunitTest_sd_export_ooxml2 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
61 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
+ much less Windows problems
+ there was a clash: UITest vs code change at the same time, both verified by Jenkins on its own
+ Some asserts in UItests don’t fail, abort instead ( Xisco )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/103993
+ AI: will take a look later (Stephan)
+ Android has now 2 workers
+ problem with running out of disk space, twice, now fixed
+ already caught real problems pre-commit
* l10n (Sophie)
+ working is ongoing
* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
* https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
* skia / vulkan metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
+ 16 (-1) open bugs, 124 total (+0)
* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
+ some people wondered if it is possible to pre-record the talk?
- possible, but not a requirement
+ need to decide how to handle the next week, “during” the conference (Miklos)
+ works for me (Cloph)
+ usual time slot, but unusual agenda (Thorsten)
+ taking questions from the audience
+ share plans / what’s cooking section / longer-term directions
* Decide on what to do with the translation/gerrit of online.git (Thorsten)
+ 1 patch from non-Collabora, should be merged at some stage
+ would not be fair to leave online.git open but nobody really care
+ to not disappoint contributors
+ other proposal: github mirror, mirrors gerrit, could mirror CollaboraOnline’s online repo
+ to be discussed, no decision is needed right now
+ Andras ensures that no translation work will be lost (Miklos)
+ ESC is the right place to discuss development & translation (Thorsten)
+ prefer that it’s discussed here and not in the board
+ will TDF continue the development of LOOL? (Heiko)
+ right now there is no parallel development in gerrit (Thorsten)
+ who wants to continue LOOL? (Heiko)
+ need to discuss that, in public (Thorsten)
+ having opinion is free, but doers should decide
+ can’t say “TDF should do this&that” but then nobody doing anything
+ for the moment, on the table, needs more discussion, also perhaps next week
+ personal take: hate pointless forking
* QA update (Xisco)
+ Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1306 (+37)
+ enhancements: 135 (+7)
+ needsUXEval: 8 (-5)
+ haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 15 (+0)
+ documentation: 16 (+2)
+ android: 5 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 22 (-2)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
+ When saving an encrypted document, unchecking 'Save with password' has no effect, encryption is kept
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133771
+ Vasily?
+ original commit intention is not clear (Xisco)
+ don’t know what would be the consequence of a revert
+ if you revert that, you probably loose encryption functionality (Thorsten)
+ or wait a bit and see if Vasily can fixes it? (Xisco)
+ have a month to fix it in some way
Old:
+ PDF export: LibreOffice 6.3 option buttons in forms not working in Adobe Reader (OK in other readers)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127217
+ Thorsten ?
+ CRASH: Chart: Changing properties in different objects
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133630
+ Muhammet ?
+ macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
+ more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)
+ Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
+ Thorsten looking at it
+ old problem, but many duplicates
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Unable to backspace over some text (track changes)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137241
+ Michael S?
+ Calc - AutoCalculate malfunction, always F9 (ReCalculate) necessary
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137248
+ Lubos?
+ Deleting columns in a table can delete several columns if any cells in that column are merged with other cells
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46733
+ not a regression
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+157 +24 (-162) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Heiko Tietze 23
QA Administrators 12
Timur 11
Buovjaga 10
andreas_k 10
Aron Budea 9
Mike Kaganski 7
NISZ LibreOffice Team 7
sdc.blanco 7
BogdanB 5
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Telesto 6
sdc.blanco 5
Buovjaga 4
Mike Kaganski 3
NISZ LibreOffice Team 3
R. Green 3
TH 3
gary tuthill 3
Andrew 2
Frederic Parrenin 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Heiko Tietze 5
Attila Szűcs 3
McNamara, Caolán 3
NISZ LibreOffice Team 3
Seth Chaiklin 3
Budea, Áron 2
Timur 2
Xisco Fauli 2
1
Attila Bakos 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Dieter Praas 9
Ilmari Lauhakangas 7
Xisco Fauli 7
Nabet, Julien 6
Telesto 6
Timur 6
m.a.riosv 6
*UNKNOWN* 5
Heiko Tietze 5
NISZ LibreOffice Team 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
6.0 : 1/52 - 1 % (+0)
5.4 : 0/41 - 0 % (+0)
5.3 : 0/54 - 0 % (+0)
5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0)
5.1 : 1/36 - 2 % (+0)
5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0)
4.4 : 0/76 - 0 % (+0)
4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0)
4.2 : 1/133 - 0 % (+0)
4.1 : 3/85 - 3 % (+0)
4.0 : 4/83 - 4 % (+0)
old : 6/247 - 2 % (+0)
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ 883/4780 881/4768 874/4746 880/4729 862/4687 848/4656 842/4631
done by:
Timur 4
Telesto 4
Xisco Fauli 2
barakso.attila 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ 1057/5667 1057/5654 1049/5632 1055/5615 1046/5583 1034/5552 1025/5522
done by:
Timur 5
Telesto 4
Xisco Fauli 2
barakso.attila 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1324(-4) bugs open of 10318(+10) total 15(+0) high prio.
done by:
Telesto 6
Timur 2
Cor Nouws 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 8(+1)
Calc - 3(+0)
Impress - 2(-1)
Chart - 1(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 13(+1)
Linux - 1(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 1(-1)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 420(+0)
Calc - 228(+0)
Impress - 147(-2)
LibreOffice - 56(-1)
Writer: docx filter - 55(+1)
Crashes - 54(-3)
Draw - 48(+0)
Borders - 43(+0)
Writer: perf - 42(+1)
UI - 41(+0)
Base - 35(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+1)
Writer: doc filter - 28(+0)
RTL - 24(+1)
Chart - 23(-1)
graphics stack - 23(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 22(+0)
filters and storage - 20(+0)
BASIC - 14(+0)
framework - 2(+0)
Formula Editor - 1(+0)
Installation - 1(+0)
sdk - 1(+0)
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