Idea of a "strict" version of LO for publishers

Svante Schubert svante.schubert at
Sat Apr 9 19:09:05 UTC 2022

Hi all,

there are different approaches to solving this scenario. Three that come
instantly to my mind:

   1. The existence of an ODF application where customers could select the
   allowed set of ODF features (e.g. disable all automatic styles for some
   scenarios - like translators) or allow only certain subsets of
   functionality (a certain type of tables and images must have a caption,
   etc.), has been a customer wish since my early times at StarOffice 1999. My
   bet would be that adding this ability to LibreOffice might be the most
   costly solution.
   2. The discipline of the editors and the alignment of requirements with
   predefined styles seem one of the easiest and cheapest solutions. But there
   would be no validation.
   3. Nevertheless, as Thorsten mentioned, TDF has well the ODF Toolkit
   <> in its portfolio, which contains for
   instance the ODF Validator <> and the ODFDOM
   library <> for
   creating, manipulating and reading ODF documents on the server-side using
   Java. Scenarios like, the listing and later elimination of automatic styles
   by exchanging them for adequate template styles might be handled by this
   library for the ODF specification. Also, as you required, some
   user-specific validation or constraint functions like the check that only
   one style is applied to a paragraph and one enrichment applied to a word
   could be added on top of ODFDOM. At least this would be likely my approach
   to solving the problem.

Have a nice weekend,

Am Sa., 9. Apr. 2022 um 18:30 Uhr schrieb Andreas Kage <andreaskage at>:

> From the view of a publishing scientist and lecturer LO is quite perfect
> to generate a variety of formats (PDF, ePub etc ) out of the odt file. The
> odt XML style can excellently handle the different Paragraph Styles
> (regular, list, legends and such) but also the implementation of different
> languages (greek, Special European Unicode) as well as other objects such
> as formulas and more.
> What is still missing and might be able to realize with your available
> budget to s certain extent is a systematic format set of Styles for the
> different scientific journals and University styles.
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> Am 07.04.22, 19:13 schrieb Yves Picard <yves.picard at>:
>> Hello,
>> On the advice of Sophie Gautier, I would like to tell you about one of
>> our "research and development" projects, for which I have a budget of about
>> two thousand euros. As a university publisher, we maintain electronic
>> publishing channels from word processing to several publishing formats
>> (html, epub, InDesign, PDF), passing through a pivot format in XML TEI.
>> This pivot format is itself derived from an XML export from Libre Office.
>> A significant part of our work consists of tracking down and containing
>> artefacts from the word processor (Word or Libre Office), in particular
>> style nesting, automatic styles or language attributes, etc.
>> I'm looking to test the idea of a "strict" version of LO that would
>> ensure that one style and one style only is applied to a paragraph, that
>> one enrichment and one enrichment only is applied to a word (no use of
>> styles like "accentuation" for example) or that a web link is always
>> findable despite the style applied. This would probably be an "amnesiac"
>> version of LO (without memory of the various manipulations) which would
>> either be used by authors (difficult to set up) or would be used by the
>> editor by loading an author file in this strict version.
>> An alternative (and probably better) idea would be a "big cleaner" tool
>> that would flatten all style or attribute nesting to the author's work.
>> I'm looking for an opinion from the Libre Office community on the
>> feasibility of such a development, while being well aware that it goes
>> against the logic of the word processor in some way. But such a version, I
>> believe, would meet the expectations of the publishing world.
>> Thank you for your attention,
>> Regards,
>> Yves Picard,
>> Presses universitaires de Rennes,
>> France.
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