[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-May-19

[Eyal Rozenberg]

So, about https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143197 ...

The bug author, ajlittoz, wrote:

 > to be honest, it took me years to develop a satisfactory mental
model, though I read thoroughly the available documentation

I had asked on the bug page regarding whether or not this "mental model"
was ever properly decided upon and documented - not just for users to be
able to read the documentation.

For example, I'd like to know whether, when it was adopted, that was
fully a conscious decision with a lot of buy-in, or whether it just sort
of happened gradually as functionality got implemented.

Another reason is that I couldn't tell you with any certainty what the
differences are between LO and MS Word's model for paragraph numbering,
outline level and lists.

Finally, when the current state of affairs is clearly and succinctly
presented, it would be easier to propose changes to it. For example, I,
don't like all paragraphs with the same list style are considered part
of the same list (except sometimes they don't seem to); and am wondering
whether lists should be more explicitly manageable in Writer.

Eyal



On 19/05/2022 15:31, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> Present: Heiko
> Comments: ajlittoz, Miklos, Mike, Maxim
>
> Tickets/Topics
>
>   * Writer: hidden link between list and chapter numbering
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143197
>     + unlikely to solve (ajlittoz)
>     + perhaps disable F12 shortcut (Mike)
>     + keep F12 and restrict the LS to chapter numbering, meaning to
>       disable all inappropriate options (as today) and block also all LS
>       for outlines; don't allow using this LS on ordinary paragraphs;
>       ultimately the software should handle proper LS and the user must
>       not be required to think what options to pick (Heiko)
>     => comment
>
>   * "Object" property dialog (and Navigator and UI elements) should be
>     retitled "OLE Object"
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149018
>     + no objection to proposal in c19
>     => do it
>
>   * Should .uno:ObjectMenue be shown in the Customize dialog?
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149047
>     + consider Windows where OLE works differently (Miklos)
>     + filled dynamically with content (Maxim)
>     => resolved fixed with the "OLE Object" modification
>
>   * Add button or context menu for (Un)Grouping in dialogue Pivot Table
> Layout
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112867
>     => unclear workflow, WF/NAB
>
>   * ability to draw callout with line extending from top or bottom of
> text box
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141085
>     => unclear workflow, WF/NAB
>