ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-19

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 19 14:45:58 UTC 2022


* Present:
     + Cloph, Olivier, Gabriel, Heiko, Ilmari, Hossein, Michael S, Stephan, Thorsten, Xisco, Miklos, Lubos, Caolan, Michael W, Kendy, Aron

* Completed Action Items:
     + create wiki to page to describe the gerrit auto-abandon process + then link to that from gerrit comments (Hossein)
     + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Pootle_bot

* Pending Action Items:
     + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.4 status:
       + beta 1 in 3 weeks + feature freeze
       + late features: SmartArt editing, to revisit next week (Thorsten)
     + 7.3 status: 7.3.4 rc2 is 2 weeks
     + Remotes: Android, iOS
     + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
        + Refactor Youtube privacy warning (online only) (ohallot)
        + Added code colorization for SQL (ohallot)
        + Handling RTL languages (buovjaga)
     + Helpcontent2
        + Scriptforge Help pages (A. Romedenne, R. Lima)
        + Refactors and updates (ohallot, fitoshido, A. Gelmini, S. Chaiklin)
     + Guides
        + Impress Guide 7.3 released (P. Schofield, K. Kriek)
        + Base Guide, Draw Guide in progress

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         228(228) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     18(5)    42(6)     113(0)      320(-2)
          commented     20(12)   77(-2)    227(-6)    1419(-19)
           resolved      3(-3)   15(3)      64(-1)     210(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Seth Chaiklin made 82 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 15 changes in 1 month, and 469 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 11 changes in 1 month, and 35 changes in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 10 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 9 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 7 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 5 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
           Leroy made 5 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
           McNamara, Caolán made 4 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         278(278) (topicUI) bugs open, 77(77) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      3(-2)    11(-4)    27(-3)      55(-2)
          commented     64(-1)   264(-7)   687(1)     2606(31)
            removed      0(-2)     6(-3)    18(-1)      42(0)
           resolved      7(1)     26(0)     81(-6)     371(3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 166 changes in 1 month, and 1881 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 91 changes in 1 month, and 188 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 46 changes in 1 month, and 297 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 40 changes in 1 month, and 175 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 30 changes in 1 month, and 215 changes in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 29 changes in 1 month, and 82 changes in 1 year
           Timur made 20 changes in 1 month, and 123 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 17 changes in 1 month, and 95 changes in 1 year
           Foote, V Stuart made 16 changes in 1 month, and 391 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 13 changes in 1 month, and 255 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 149172] Problem with color or label for "libreoffice" font color for
            "Yellow 0" and "Orange 0"
     + [Bug 124510] Border for Section (single column) does not toggle on/off with
            its control in Application Colors, while multi-column Sections do
            not show their color boundaries at all
     + [Bug 149141] Draw UI/Editing. Allow object creation by clicking if drag size
            is below threshold
  -> + [Bug 149054] Make the space available for comments wider
     + [Bug 149050] .uno:Gallery should open the Gallery deck
     + [Bug 84973] "Date (fix)" fields updated when copy of document opened
     + [Bug 149018] "Object" property dialog (and Navigator and UI elements) should
            be titled "Embedded Object"
     + [Bug 149047] Should .uno:ObjectMenue be shown in the Customize dialog?

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 86(-5) import failure, 15(+1) export failures
       - assert proving tricky
     + 5 coverity issues
       - all addressed, pending next run
     + 8 ossfuzz issues
       - 2 crash, 3 OOM, 3 Timeouts. Best result for months

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.6.2
          + (+170) 816 646 779 781 522 558 428 373 166 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.7.2
          + (+167) 167 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.2.2
          + (+98) 1720 1622 2249 2101 1664 934 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.3.2
          + (+500) 1055 555 0

    + mdds & skia are the top 2 reported crashers
      + no reproducers yet

* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months     12 months
                   open      64(-22)    129(-15)    133(-13)      136(-13)
                reviews     236(-28)   1002(-18)   3190(-124)   12394(-40)
                 merged     334(35)    1251(43)    3925(65)     15705(4)
              abandoned      17(3)       66(7)      313(0)        831(5)
            own commits     278(16)    1021(68)    2990(79)     12583(49)
         review commits      51(13)     170(15)     665(-16)     3623(-1)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month    3 months    12 months
                   open      25(-19)     77(-1)     83(1)        85(1)
                reviews     824(4)     2958(58)   9026(72)    34478(58)
                 merged       8(-3)      42(-2)    166(-12)    1394(24)
              abandoned      14(12)      36(11)    166(7)       440(4)
            own commits       9(-5)      42(3)     196(-19)    1378(-41)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)       0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 310(310)
        total 370(370)   assigned 19(19)   open 323(323)
     + top 10 contributors:
           xuenhua made 5 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 4 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Nagy Tibor made 2 patches in 1 month, and 31 patches in 1 year
           Batmunkh Dorjgotov made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Attila Bakos made 2 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
           Marco Pinto made 2 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           flywire made 2 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Paris Oplopoios made 2 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Daniel Lohmann made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Isha Desai made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 954 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 1214 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 788 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 598 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 878 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 724 in 1 year
           McNamara, Caolán made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 506 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 40 review comments in 1 month, and 288 in 1 year
           Bergmann, Stephan made 36 review comments in 1 month, and 272 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 36 review comments in 1 month, and 220 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#143320, tdf#143387: sw_uiwriter4: Add unittest ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/118908
         SwNavigator: speed up fields fill ( Jim Raykowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/131160
         define -> constexpr and enum ( Sahil Butola )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/131294
         cells addresses outside the max range are not completely invalid ( Luboš Luňák )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/131666

     + we have lots of easy hacks, some of them are obsolete by now (Miklos)
       + a systematic review of these would be nice, how to handle that the best way?
       + Total of 1529 EasyHacks throught the time.
         + Currently 354 active EasyHacks (open, re-opened or assigned)
         + 310 of them have 5 or more comments
           + can re-count with less or more comment limit
         + Some of these are obsolete by now
           + can close some of them
           + Ilmari closed some of these in the past
       + using a tool "deskzilla" to work with bugzilla:
           + can save a list of all easy hacks
           + can review the oldest easy hacks
       + creating lots of easy hacks (Heiko)
         + 73 ones are skillDesign keywords
       + how you mark the reviewed easy hack? (Cloph)
         + currently actively looking for no longer relevant areas (Hossein)
         + whiteboard field could be used for this purpose (Xisco)
           + perhaps "reviewed:2022"? (Miklos)
           + and either close it or tag it?
AI: create a query so we can track the progress (Hossein)

     + new blog posts:
         + https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/05/19/interacting-with-the-pootle-bot-on-gerrit/
         + string types: work in progress
         https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Hossein/Blog/string

* GSoC (Hossein/Ilmari)
     + Timeline: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
     + Google will announce accepted students tomorrow

* Commit Access
   + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 19 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
     from:Thu May 12 13:41:13 2022
     master linux rel  jobs: 141 ok: 141 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master linux dbg  jobs: 114 ok: 109 ko:   5 fail ratio:  4.39 % break:   3 broken duration: 3.81%
     master mac rel    jobs:  72 ok:  72 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master mac dbg    jobs:  74 ok:  74 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master win rel    jobs:  86 ok:  86 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master win dbg    jobs:  88 ok:  88 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master win64 dbg  jobs:  89 ok:  89 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master gerrit lin jobs: 493 ok: 419 ko:  53 fail ratio: 10.75% time for ok: mean:  19 median:  17
     master gerrit plg jobs: 472 ok: 313 ko: 137 fail ratio: 29.03% time for ok: mean:  48 median:  44
     master gerrit win jobs: 570 ok: 345 ko: 183 fail ratio: 32.11% time for ok: mean:  58 median:  55
     master gerrit mac jobs: 533 ok: 398 ko:  94 fail ratio: 17.64% time for ok: mean:  38 median:  35
     master android    jobs: 467 ok: 396 ko:  51 fail ratio: 10.92% time for ok: mean:  19 median:  14
     master gerrit all jobs: 555 ok: 257 ko: 250 fail ratio: 45.05% time for ok: mean:  86 median:  66
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_220519.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test2                gerrit_windows
       3 JunitTest_sfx2_complex                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter6                gerrit_mac
       5 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport2                gerrit_mac
       6 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport                gerrit_mac
       9 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      24 CppunitTest_sc_macros_test                gerrit_windows
      45 CppunitTest_sdext_pdfimport                gerrit_windows
   + still have a high number of failing tests on Windows
     + some of this may be due to a cygwin bug
     + CppunitTest_sc_macros_test and CppunitTest_sdext_pdfimport doesn't happen reliably

* l10n (Sophie)
   + some problems with sending mail from weblate (Cloph)
   + no updates otherwise

* New full name for Pootle bot (Ilmari)
   + The name Pootle is confusing for everyone except the most erudite LibreOffice historians
   + Proposals for a new name include Botty McBotface, empty string, ⊥, 🤖 and probably Little Botty Tables
   + Maybe we should go with something simple, though, like Review bot
   + The change will not affect any scripts, as the username stays as pootlebot
   + Only documentation would need to be changed, recent wiki article and blog post (I can do it)
   + proposal: rename it to "Review bot" (Ilmari)
AI: do this (Ilmari)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + 16k cols in Calc (Lubos)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133764
   + feature/chartdatatable: MSO-style data tables for charts (Tomaz)
     + see initial commits in master
   + Working on SmartArt (Armin)
     + the plumbing is mostly done now
     + now focusing on the UI + ODF export
       + ODF filter is meant to be experimental in 7.4
         + this way no need to commit to a markup right now
         + what markup do you plan? (Kendy)
           + ideal would be something specified & ODF (Thorsten)
           + similar, but not the same as OOXML
           + have prior art with SMIL
           + tree / graph / layout could be 1:1
       + OOXML roundtrip to remain
     + expect a blog post soon (really :) )
     + feature is about editing, then
     + do we have UI to edit the smartart right now? (Hossein)
       + there is some oldish dialog: enable experimental features + add it to your menu (Thorsten)
       + goal for 7.4 is to have a nicer GUI (text edit, moving things around)
     + should land in master in 3-4 weeks
   + Adding content controls to Writer (Miklos)
     + inline <w:sdt> in DOCX, rich text/checkbox/dropdown/picture types
   + parallel installation set packing (Thorsten)
     + seems like it's working, apart from breaking macOS (will try to sort it out)
     + Linux has a nice win, 10x speedup
     + noticable if you build with help + all languages
     + running multiple make_installer.pl processes in parallel
     + the "make installer" itself is still serialized
   + Add support for field types in PDF form export (Xisco)
     + fixed a few issues with PDF forms
     + e.g. numeric field
     + emitting some JS snippets: works with Adobe Reader & firefox
   + LanguageTool grammar checking using the remote server (Kendy)
     + Mert's work:
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/134112
     + uses libcurl to handle networking
     + spellchecking / grammar checking
     + already works to some extent -> hope to get it in before the feature freeze
     + possible concern: talking to a remote server?
       + disabled by default, need to provide a REST API URL
     + gerrit change:
     + is it different to the languagetool extension? (Heiko)
       + asking because LT from extension site uses an outdated UNO component
         registration/legacy active Java component registration method,
         see tdf#112723
       + yes and no: developed by the same people (Kendy)
       + advantage: better results using AI & whatnot
         + also can use it without Java
     + privacy feedback? (Cloph)
       + online update + crashreport does this already
       + link is enough, no need to include the statement in the code
       + will consider this (Kendy)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1701 (-14)
         + enhancements: 274  (+3)
         + needsUXEval: 3 (-3)
         + haveBackTrace: 7 (+2)
         + needsDevAdvice: 28 (+0)
         + documentation:  17 (+1)
         + android:  4 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  10 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         None
      Old:
         + macOS: Can't save or open files using Finder dialog on Standard accounts on macOS 10.15 Catalina
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128233
            + started to happen with a new macOS version
            + somebody has to do the work to keep up with the new Apple requirements
              + sometimes this works, sometimes now (Stephan)
      Fixed:
         + LOdev 7.4.0.0alpha1 cannot be installed over an existing installation
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149106
             + Fixed thanks to Samuel

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + FILEOPEN: hang opening file in Mac
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125395

               + Jan-Marek?


         + Add array functions in Calc: FILTER, SORT, SORTBY, UNIQUE, SEQUENCE, RANDARRAY
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126573
             + feature request

         + Hangs when opening a particular DOC file
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141655
             + Laszlo?

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +119  -10 (-148) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Timur                   19
        Buovjaga                15
        QA Administrators       12
        Caolán McNamara         9
        Luboš Luňák             8
        Heiko Tietze            6
        sdc.blanco              6
        Dieter                  5
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 5
        Michael Warner          5

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        sdc.blanco              8
        Telesto                 5
        Rafael Lima             4
        NISZ LibreOffice Team   3
        Regina Henschel         3
        Aron Budea              2
        BDF                     2
        Buovjaga                2
        Christophe Strobbe      2
        Stefan_Lange_KA@T-Online.de 2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        McNamara, Caolán        8
        Luboš Luňák             5
        Michael Stahl           4
        Seth Chaiklin           3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Németh, László          2
                                1
        David Strozzi           1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      28
        Timur                   18
        Dieter                  10
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Aron Budea              4
        Faure, Jean-Baptiste    4
        Henschel, Regina        3
        Raal                    3
        Foote, V Stuart         2

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
      old : 1/246 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   5
         Aron Budea             4
         Timur                  2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kevin Suo              1
         Telesto                1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   5
         Aron Budea             4
         Timur                  3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kevin Suo              1
         Telesto                1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1257(-15) bugs open of 11780(+14) total 12(+1) high prio.

      done by:
         Timur                  5
         Aron Budea             3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Kevin Suo              1
         Telesto                1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      Installation  - 1(+1)

    by OS:
      All           - 9(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 3(+1)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 465(+4)
      Calc                     - 199(-3)
      Impress                  - 125(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 61(+0)
      Crashes                  - 55(-1)
      LibreOffice              - 49(-3)
      Draw                     - 44(+0)
      UI                       - 44(-1)
      Writer: perf             - 39(-1)
      Borders                  - 36(-2)
      Base                     - 34(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 34(+0)
      Chart                    - 25(+0)
      RTL                      - 24(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 21(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 20(+0)
      graphics stack           - 17(+1)
      BASIC                    - 16(-1)
      filters and storage      - 16(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 1(+1)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)
      sdk                      - 1(+0)


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