Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-12

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Jan 12 13:43:14 UTC 2023

Present: Cor, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Eyal, Seth, Dieter, Mike


  * PS formatting gets lost, if you paste text into an new document
    with same name of PS, but different settings
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138786
    + keep target style when pasting a source with the same PS (Heiko)
      or let the user confirm (Dieter) or provide some kind of
      paste special option (Mike)
    + unclear use case (Heiko)
    + is a bug: pasting styled content should take the formatting
      from the source if the style is unused, otherwise the target style
      + works for some but not all styles (Cor)
    => bug for the particular style

  * "Drawing Style" should be renamed "Drawing Object Style"
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152656
    + +1 (Stuart), -1 (Roman, Heiko), challenge for "Default Drawing Style"
    + "Default Object Style" or "Default Style" or
      "Default Drawing-Object Style" (Eyal)
    + not worth the effort (Cor)
    => resolve WF

  * Change "outline level" to "heading level" in UI and help pages for Writer
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152605
    + "Chapter and Outline Numbering", here "Heading Level" (Stuart)
    + "Heading and Outline Numbering" (Eyal) misleading as the request is about
      *Outline Level* supposedly named "Heading Level" (Seth)
    + just "Level"; the Level is defined in a "*Chapter* numbering"
      dialog; could be "Numbering level" (Heiko)
      + no improvement so rather keep it (Heiko)
    + agree to "Heading Level" but we also have a frame label; and the tab itself
      is named "Outline & List" (Cor)
    + afraid of unknown consequences (Cor)
    => recommend to keep "outline level"

  * Introduce a Slide/Page style category in Impress
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152655
    + provide kind of direct formatting opportunity via sidebar
      for many different options (Eyal)
    + unclear relation to master slides, everything should be covered (Cor)
    + introducing a new style means to trigger the standardization and
      to add the new feature ultimately to every application (Heiko)
    + it will bring _more_ complexity to the users..
      + better improve gaps in master slide implementation (Cor)
    => invalid request

  * "Hybrid PDF" must share embedded media between the ODT and the proper PDF
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152661
    + excessive increase in size (Eyal)
    + do understand the issue - would be nice if that can be avoided, but..
    + PDF and ODF are different formats, keeping both at full length
      has its value (Stuart, Heiko)
    + likely requires to change every PDF reader to access media from
      a shared-data section - or to update all ODF writer/reader and the
      standardization to do so (Cor)
    => WF
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