ESC meeting minutes: 2024-08-08

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 8 14:45:34 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Olivier, Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Jonathan, Michael W, Michael S, Regina, Stephan, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.0 rc3 this week?
     ~ 9 patches waiting in queue: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/status:open+branch:libreoffice-24-8-0
   + 24.2.6 rc1 in 1 week?
   + 24.8 Windows arm status? (Stephan)
     + crashes on start when dictionaries are enabled
     + plan to have it in the platform selector (Cloph)
       + will get back to the Linaro on this
       + 24.8.0 is not meant to be available on the app stores
       + later: fix it, strip away lightproof, we'll see

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + Helpcontent2
        + Bug fixes from Ask.LO (Pierre F, after M. Kaganski support)
        + Refactor for maintenance (ohallot)
        + New pages for Sidebar ( D. Maddern)
        + Typos and translations (A. Barrientos)
        + Database Tables referencing (Regina)
           + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CalcTableRef
     + Support needed for defining Help ID's in many places (D. Maddern)
        + see ML.
        + Michael W is helping out here
     + Suport needed for A11y in dialogs
         + Michael W is helping out here
     + Guides
        + Finishing Getting Started
        + Stating Calc Guide

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         238(238) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     30(30)   44(44)     95(95)    228(228)
          commented     28(28)   75(75)    247(247)   853(853)
           resolved     19(19)   26(26)     62(62)    143(143)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 51 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 40 changes in 1 month, and 288 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 13 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 8 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 7 changes in 1 month, and 105 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 6 changes in 1 month, and 86 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 5 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Cor Nouws made 5 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 5 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 5 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 1 year

* Question from unnamed person:
Could we add some stats of AskLO ?
so far, there's a very limited table in : https://ask.libreoffice.org/about
would be interesting to have some sort of push email to remind posters to mark their posts as "resolved" when it's the case.
And more generally to get an idea of trend : few stats of page views for help / wiki / downloads ... ?
   * Ilmari: there are stats in https://dashboard.documentfoundation.org/app/kibana#/dashboard/Discourse
   + at least the dashboard seems to track contributions on the Ask site (Miklos)

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         234(234) (topicUI) bugs open, 25(25) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      2(2)      4(4)       5(5)       13(13)
          commented     28(28)   137(137)   431(431)   1728(1728)
            removed      0(0)      0(0)       2(2)       10(10)
           resolved      6(6)     25(25)     76(76)     282(282)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 63 changes in 1 month, and 953 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 37 changes in 1 month, and 604 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 28 changes in 1 month, and 168 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 18 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 13 changes in 1 month, and 49 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 11 changes in 1 month, and 324 changes in 1 year
           Justin Luth made 10 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 8 changes in 1 month, and 115 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 8 changes in 1 month, and 46 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 7 changes in 1 month, and 137 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 162388] Customizing drawing shape size with "Resize shape to fit text"
            option enabled
     + [Bug 162362] Rename "Page Master" and "Slide Master"
     + [Bug 139107] Availability of non-printing Unicode special characters should
            not depend upon the font
     + [Bug 162305] When opening plain text files with LTR and RTL,
             paragraph directions and alignment are wrong
  -> + [Bug 162296] Enable 'Extended Tips' on Tools -> Options -> General by default

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 51(+0) import failure, 15(+0) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
       - most recent assert fixed, thanks to erack
     + 840 coverity issues
       - now sub 1000
     + 6 oss-fuzz issues
       - 1 (3rd party lib) crash, 5 timeouts
     + CVE-2024-6472 Ability to trust not validated macro signatures removed in high security mode

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + Missing Xisco
     + 24.2.2.2    19108(+0)
     + 24.2.3.2    16648(+0)
     + 24.2.4.2    11924(+0)
     + 24.2.5.2    4391(+0)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Reviewed submissions from newcomers
  + Added a new draft blog post for extending UNO API
    Extending UNO API
    https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1214&preview=1&_ppp=390c6bed6a
           committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open      84(84)     175(175)     178(178)      178(178)
                reviews     436(436)   1564(1564)   3880(3880)   13178(13178)
                 merged     242(242)   1274(1274)   3676(3676)   12953(12953)
              abandoned      21(21)      78(78)      221(221)      755(755)
            own commits     159(159)    875(875)    2477(2477)    9433(9433)
         review commits      60(60)     221(221)     757(757)     3081(3081)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open      47(47)     110(110)     110(110)      110(110)
                reviews     810(810)   3252(3252)   8326(8326)   29956(29956)
                 merged      18(18)      75(75)      269(269)     1504(1504)
              abandoned      21(21)      43(43)       88(88)       739(739)
            own commits      28(28)      98(98)      329(329)     1232(1232)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 330(330)
        total 415(415)   assigned 22(22)   open 357(357)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 26 patches in 1 month, and 54 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 81 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 4 patches in 1 month, and 36 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 4 patches in 1 month, and 88 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 4 patches in 1 month, and 69 patches in 1 year
           Adam Seskunas made 3 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 3 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Vladislav Tarakanov made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Hamed made 2 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Thorsten Behrens made 156 review comments in 1 month, and 716 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 700 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 1442 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 498 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 766 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 860 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 1196 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 950 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 590 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 730 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#38844 - Reduce XOR rendering (search RasterOp::Xor) ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/164949
         [WIP] tdf#50050: Sync charStyle of LE with LS ( Mohit Marathe )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166569
         Disable tests that fail with scaling other than 1x ( Hossein )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168045
         tdf#152299 ( Nima Mahanloo )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168077
         sw: use SAL_RET_MAYBENULL in GetTextNode() ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168108
         sw: use SAL_RET_MAYBENULL in GetView() ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168111
         vcl: use SAL_RET_MAYBENULL in ImplGetFrameWindow(), GetFrameWeld()... ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168117
         Remove now unused osl/diagnose.h from interfacecontainer.h ( Gabor Kelemen )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168131
         sfx2: more SAL_RET_MAYBENULL in viewfrm.hxx ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168140
         svx: warning C6011: Dereferencing NULL pointer ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168143
         sw/qa: warning C6011: Dereferencing NULL pointer ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168150
         sw: warning C6011: Dereferencing NULL pointer ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168162
         sw: Use SAL_RET_MAYBENULL in GetContentIdx() ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168265
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Per99

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + 26 August is the deadline for final code submissions in non-extended projects

* LiboCon (Cloph)
   + CfP is open: https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2024/cfp
     + 2024-08-30 11:52 (UTC) is the deadline
   + Planning to have a development workshop this year (Hossein)
     + in 2 days, shorter than last year
     + working on this, contacting persenters from last year

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 14 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 158 ok: 143 ko:  13 fail ratio: 8.23% mean_ok:  13 ( 23) median_ok:  10 ( 17)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 159 ok: 152 ko:   6 fail ratio: 3.77% mean_ok:  13 ( 22) median_ok:  10 ( 15)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 158 ok: 143 ko:  13 fail ratio: 8.23% mean_ok:  14 ( 23) median_ok:  10 ( 15)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 159 ok: 152 ko:   6 fail ratio: 3.77% mean_ok:  12 ( 22) median_ok:   9 ( 14)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 325 ok: 242 ko:  74 fail ratio: 22.77% mean_ok:  54 ( 62) median_ok:  50 ( 56)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 399 ok: 302 ko:  74 fail ratio: 18.55% mean_ok:  26 ( 35) median_ok:  20 ( 26)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 330 ok: 283 ko:  36 fail ratio: 10.91% mean_ok:  54 ( 55) median_ok:  47 ( 48)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 336 ok: 259 ko:  63 fail ratio: 18.75% mean_ok:  59 ( 62) median_ok:  57 ( 57)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 434 ok: 213 ko: 183 fail ratio: 42.17% mean_ok: 100 (100) median_ok:  89 ( 89)
gerrit_master              jobs:  74 ok:  36 ko:  34 fail ratio: 45.95% mean_ok:  70 ( 70) median_ok:  70 ( 70)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 360 ok: 177 ko: 149 fail ratio: 41.39% mean_ok: 105 (105) median_ok:  96 ( 96)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport13                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport15                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport21                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       5 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 CppunitTest_sd_png_export_tests                gerrit_windows
       6 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       9 CppunitTest_sd_tiledrendering                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      24 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
     + this week was OK (Cloph)
     + 1 Windows builder hit a timeout problem
       + still an open issue to auto-detect this
     + also a HW failure -> longer build times
     + new server: about to put that into the pool
       + expecting 4 builds on Windows in 1h
       + would make the Linux build the bottleneck
         + more tests there
         + easy to scale

* Report builder as extension? (Ilmari)
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Under-loved_areas#Replace_Java_report_generator_code
   + have a volunteer interested in this
   + some Linux distros don't include it at all
   + propose: c++ extension to research the problem
     + couple of report libraries available
   + any benefit?
     + currently an optional module
     + it used to be an extension (Michael S)
       + https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/oracle-report-builder
   + having report designer built-in sounds useful, for example based on Writer (Hossein)
   + good to get input from Lionel (Miklos)
     + also perhaps from Noel (Caolan)
       + Noel already commented in the wiki (Ilmari)
     + what distros dropped it?
       + ArchLinux (Ilmari)
       + big long chain of Java dependencies (Caolan)
   + will continue researching (Ilmari)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
    + A11y update (Michael W)
       + tdf#155447 Accessible IDs for spellcheck dialog: MR for Orca,
         discussion of potential approaches for reuse in other apps
       + tdf#35107 Hyperlink a11y
       + added a11y names for page background elements in Writer sidebar
       + Accerciser: implemented display of hyperlink infos
    + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
       + tdf#162314: Hang while laying out bidi portions with underflow
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162314
       + tdf#162358: Fallback for grapheme clusters split by start of run
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162358
       + tdf#36709: First line indent using Ch should change for font size
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36709
          + More generally: relative length unit support
          + Discussions ongoing
          + Current understanding:
             + Schema changes are needed, extension attribute for interim
       + keeping track of responsiveness of LO for different languages (Hossein)
         + currently testing this manually
         + would need perf regression testing suite (Jonathan)
         + https://perf.libreoffice.org/ is there (Miklos)
           + ${LODE_HOME}/bin/tb_slave_wrapper --branch=MASTER --os=Linux --real --perfsuite --distro-config=PerfSuite_Linux.conf --name="Jenkins_Callgrind"
         + it uses callgrind, so should be consistent across hardware (Caolan)
         + trouble is nobody looks at the result, it requires time (Michael S)
         + 1 build is 16 hours (Cloph)
           + also have newer data at a different URL
AI: switch the default to the new data (Cloph)
    + drawinglayer system-dependent primitive renderer (SDPR) for cairo (Armin)
    + tdf#61242 - Customization of comments background color (Heiko)
      + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/171523
      + this was all hardcoded previously, now possible to customize it

* QA update (Xisco)
     + Missing Xisco
     + unconfirmed is "1202 (+1202)", is that correct? (Eyal)
       + perhaps fallout from the ruff changes (Ilmari)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1202 (+1202)
         + enhancements: 286  (+286)
         + needsUXEval: 4 (+4)
         + haveBackTrace: 9 (+9)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+47)
         + documentation:  3 (+3)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+9)



     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Old:
      Fixed:


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + FILEOPEN XLSX "Author" information about notes is not read
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157851
             + not tagged as a regression

         + Range picker must not grab the focus
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162310
             + not tagged as a regression

* QA stats (Xisco)
     + Missing Xisco
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +106  +0 (-115) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       14
        Mike Kaganski           10
        fpy                     9
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 8
        Michael Weghorn         7
        Olivier Hallot          7
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Telesto                 5
        Björn Michaelsen        4
        m_a_riosv               4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Eyal Rozenberg          5
        Faisal                  4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Telesto                 4
        Hossein                 3
        Manu                    3
        Olivier Hallot          3
        Regina Henschel         3
        Ahmed Hamed             2
        Heiko Tietze            2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Pierre F                9
        Kaganski, Mike          7
        Olivier Hallot          7
        Weghorn, Michael        5
        Michaelsen, Björn       4
        Kurt Nordback           3
        Vajna, Miklos           3
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Caolán McNamara         2
        Grandin, Noel           2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               16
        Stéphane Guillou        7
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Ady                     5
        Kaganski, Mike          4
        Raal                    3
        Roman Kuznetsov         3
        Ahmed Hamed             2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Olivier Hallot          2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       6
         Hossein                2
         Raal                   2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Aron Budea             1
         Michaelsen, Björn      1
         gladys                 1
         Kaganski, Mike         1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       6
         Raal                   2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Aron Budea             1
         Michaelsen, Björn      1
         Dennis Roczek          1
         Nabet, Julien          1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1234(+1234) bugs open of 13531(+13531) total 22(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       5
         Hossein                2
         Raal                   2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Ady                    1
         Aron Budea             1
         Dennis Roczek          1
         m.a.riosv              1
         Robert Großkopf        1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 10(+0)
      Calc          - 5(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      UI            - 2(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 13(+0)
      Linux         - 6(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 412(+0)
      Calc                     - 237(+0)
      Impress                  - 127(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 53(+0)
      Draw                     - 47(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 47(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      Base                     - 39(+0)
      UI                       - 38(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+0)
      Borders                  - 34(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 27(+0)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 22(+0)
      filters and storage      - 22(+0)
      BASIC                    - 20(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 17(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 10(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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