ESC meeting minutes: 2024-08-29

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 29 14:42:33 UTC 2024


* Present:
   + Hossein, Michael W, Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael S, Regina, Stephan, Xisco, Olivier, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:
   + enable MAR updater by default (Stephan)

* Pending Action Items:
   + perf.libreoffice.org: switch the default to the new data (Cloph)
   + Enable the commit bit for Vivek Javiya (Cloph)
   + Send the new committer mail for Vivek (Miklos)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.1 rc2 next week?
     + keep an eye on the NSS update, hopefully sorted out by Xisco
     + did anybody figure out why downgrading the NSS DLL version is a problem? (Michael S)
       + Mike K was commenting on that on IRC (Ilmari)
         + "that is likely our MSI check, which checks what to "upgrade", and chooses not to upgrade some newer DLLs; but then doing a complete uninstall."
       + not sure about the details, just updated to the latest version, then back to the ESR version (Xisco)
   + 24.2.6 rc2 this week, later today

* Cell indicator in 24.8 branch (Xisco)
   + Summary: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162646#c20
   + two topics: comment indicator and focus rectangle; no revert please (Heiko)
   + the fear is that what's there in 24.8 is half-done (Xisco)
   + comments are mixed (Ilmari)
     + some people like what's in master
     + just today 2 commits were backported
     + one more patch to merge to 24-8, would be ideal even on 24-8-1
   + the issue is quite old, the focus rectangle of a cell was painted inside the cell (Heiko)
     + then tried outside the cell to not cover content
     + design team suggestion was: push it to the release, see what the wider community likes
     + meanwhile Rafael improved this, seems people are happy with the current state
     + hope the problem is fixed
     + would like to avoid adding more options for this
     + would be good to wait, collect input and not just revert quickly
   + do you support backporting the relevant changes from master? (Ilmari)
     + like it (Heiko)
   + fine with this, just good to not experiment on release branches (Xisco)+

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Help
        + Updates and fixes (ohallot, Pierre F, buovjaga, Alain R.)
     + Guides
        + Work on going.
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         234(234) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     33(9)     84(12)   110(4)     257(12)
          commented     69(26)   181(48)   318(49)    943(38)
           resolved     11(2)     49(10)    66(0)     164(9)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 134 changes in 1 month, and 178 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 75 changes in 1 month, and 320 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 64 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 32 changes in 1 month, and 153 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 27 changes in 1 month, and 119 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 11 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 10 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 10 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 8 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         233(233) (topicUI) bugs open, 24(24) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      2(-3)    5(-4)      6(-4)      14(-4)
          commented     27(-7)   90(-42)   359(-53)   1673(-74)
            removed      0(0)     0(0)       2(0)       10(0)
           resolved      6(5)    24(0)      72(-1)     274(-7)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 43 changes in 1 month, and 912 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 32 changes in 1 month, and 337 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 17 changes in 1 month, and 143 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 14 changes in 1 month, and 151 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 10 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
           steve made 8 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Kelemen, Gabor made 6 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
           kolAflash made 6 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 5 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 5 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 162005] in windows list (in panel) (LINUX) different icon for .ODT and
            .ODM document windows
     + [Bug 154434] FILEOPEN HTML: Writer loses HTML layout
     + [Bug 162031] Poor visiblity of line linking comment to text
     + [Bug 161972] Inserting new comment in Calc disables the "show all comments"
            setting
     + [Bug 162582] Find toolbar's "Search key not found" error message has
            incompatible colors in dark mode, especially its icon (Sifr dark theme only)
  -> + [Bug 162028] When a cell is protected and the language is changed for all text
            the language of that cell is changed too
            + think it's not a big deal (Heiko)
            + all-text vs protection conflict
     + [Bug 162615] too wide a left sidebar in Start Center for RU locale

  -> + PIVOTTABLE: Warning does not show range when overwriting destination
       range contents
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162417
       + maybe just block overwrite, don't ask

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 18(+2) import failure, 13(+0) export failures
     + 479 coverity issues
     + 2 ossfuzz issues
       - 2 timeouts (2 other issues claimed fixed in oss-fuzz, but not auto-closed)
     + special run for libreoffice-24-8

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 24.2.3.2    18646(+574)
     + 24.2.4.2    14574(+756)
     + 24.2.5.2    13547(+2739)
     + 24.8.0.3    1336(+0)

     - New in 24.8

         - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwTextINetFormat::GetCharFormat()

       - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwNode::GetNodes()

     - DOCX export

     - seems not on master, trying to see if crashtesting finds a sample (Xisco)

        - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwViewShell::VisPortChgd(SwRect%20const%20&)

            - PDF export


* Mentoring (Hossein)

      + Added a Wiki page for building LO for Windows with WSL

      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWSLWindows
      + WSL build for Linux was previously added
      + In the end, they may be merged in the build pages for relevant OS
           committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open      65(-28)    168(-13)     177(-10)     177(-10)
                reviews     328(-38)   1284(-104)   3732(-8)    12950(-244)
                 merged     305(53)    1077(28)     3561(75)    13053(34)
              abandoned      12(-5)      81(-8)      239(-1)      777(-3)
            own commits     247(63)     816(64)     2449(78)     9585(69)
         review commits      52(-7)     241(3)       746(-1)     3095(-36)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open      36(-28)    103(-11)    112(-6)     112(-6)
                reviews     822(-50)   2918(-34)   8196(88)   29826(-66)
                 merged      32(-9)     128(7)      314(16)    1518(-26)
              abandoned       2(-2)      34(-5)      83(-6)     588(-7)
            own commits      17(-8)     106(-5)     328(-2)    1256(-20)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 328(328)
        total 412(412)   assigned 24(24)   open 353(353)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Pierre F made 34 patches in 1 month, and 72 patches in 1 year
             made 11 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 11 patches in 1 month, and 78 patches in 1 year
           Adam Seskunas made 9 patches in 1 month, and 26 patches in 1 year
           Hubert Figuière made 5 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Ritobroto Mukherjee made 5 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
           Kurt Nordback made 3 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 2 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 2 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Hamed made 2 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Thorsten Behrens made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 702 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 846 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 1416 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 762 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1126 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 464 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 900 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 514 in 1 year
           Hossein made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 338 in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 282 in 1 year
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Sohrab Kazak sohrab.kazak at gmail.com

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + 26 August is the deadline for final code submissions in non-extended projects
     + then final eval from mentors
   + 4 projects with extensions, to be finished till the end of Sept
   + mentors can see the individual deadlines on the gsoc site

* LiboCon (Cloph)
   + CfP is open: https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2024/cfp
     + 2024-08-31 11:52 (UTC) is the deadline (less than 2 days)
   + Call re development workshop, working on it (Hossein)
   + slot for the ESC call needs filing? (Miklos)
     + yes, and also done for the gsoc panel (Ilmari)
     + looking forward to see students in person (Thorsten)
   + lightning talks slot? (Stephan)
     + not sure if that would be individual vs a placeholder slot
     + blocking out some time for this would be useful (Thorsten)
       + like the lightning talks catch-all slot idea (Cloph)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 14 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 180 ok: 177 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.67% mean_ok:  13 ( 23) median_ok:   9 ( 16)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 181 ok: 174 ko:   7 fail ratio: 3.87% mean_ok:  12 ( 22) median_ok:   9 ( 14)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 179 ok: 176 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.68% mean_ok:  14 ( 23) median_ok:  11 ( 16)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 180 ok: 179 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.56% mean_ok:  12 ( 23) median_ok:   8 ( 15)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 373 ok: 292 ko:  76 fail ratio: 20.38% mean_ok:  53 ( 62) median_ok:  50 ( 54)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 418 ok: 352 ko:  41 fail ratio: 9.81% mean_ok:  27 ( 36) median_ok:  19 ( 25)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 365 ok: 335 ko:  28 fail ratio: 7.67% mean_ok:  53 ( 53) median_ok:  44 ( 45)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 375 ok: 302 ko:  70 fail ratio: 18.67% mean_ok:  61 ( 63) median_ok:  57 ( 58)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 447 ok: 241 ko: 173 fail ratio: 38.70% mean_ok: 106 (106) median_ok:  91 ( 92)
gerrit_master              jobs:  46 ok:  21 ko:  25 fail ratio: 54.35% mean_ok:  83 ( 83) median_ok:  71 ( 71)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 401 ok: 222 ko: 149 fail ratio: 37.16% mean_ok: 107 (107) median_ok:  92 ( 92)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_chart2_import2                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_sw_ui_frmdlg                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       9 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      36 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
   + this week: 1 windows bot got locked into the failure state, otherwise OK (Cloph)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + looking into https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6915 ("LibreOffice Writer:
       provide speech and braille feedback for common shortcut keys), some related
       changes
     + wina11y: Report accessible ID as "id" object attribute, now part of official
       IAccessible2 spec: https://github.com/LinuxA11y/IAccessible2/pull/31
     + Accerciser: improvements to highlighting feature, show process ID
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#162639: sw: kashida justification layout was zoom-dependent
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162639
     + tdf#152142: sw: textboxes positioned incorrectly in RTL text
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152142
   + CairoSDPR from Armin
   + tdf#161941 add --with-docrepair-fonts option (Caolán)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1228 (-1)
         + enhancements: 287  (+4)
         + needsUXEval: 3 (-6)
         + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 45 (-2)
         + documentation:  6 (+1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
          None
      Fixed:
         + LibreOffice doesn't start on Windows (erorr messages about nss3.dll and nspr4.dll)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162589
             + Problematic commit reverted (Xisco)

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         None

* QA stats (Xisco)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +123  -49 (-118) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                13
        QA Administrators       10
        Heiko Tietze            7
        Justin L                6
        Caolán McNamara         5
        Olivier Hallot          5
        Michael Weghorn         4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Rafael Lima             4
        Xisco Faulí             4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Jeff Fortin Tam         6
        Justin L                6
        Buovjaga                4
        Regina Henschel         4
        Bogaboga Man            3
        Cor Nouws               3
        Manu                    3
        Olivier Hallot          3
        Hossein                 2
        Mike Kaganski           2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Justin Luth             5
        Caolán McNamara         4
        Olivier Hallot          4
        Bogaboga Man            3
        Jim Raykowski           3
        Jonathan Clark          3
        Pierre F                3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Grandin, Noel           2
        Heiko Tietze            2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      31
        m.a.riosv               9
        Ady                     8
        Raal                    7
        Justin Luth             5
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Weghorn, Michael        4
        Caolán McNamara         3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Nabet, Julien           3


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     9
         Raal                   5
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Steve271               1
         Justin Luth            1
         Németh, László         1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas    10
         Raal                   5
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Aron Budea             1
         Steve271               1
         Justin Luth            1
         Németh, László         1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1208(+6) bugs open of 13565(+20) total 24(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     7
         Raal                   3
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Ady                    1
         David                  1
         Justin Luth            1
         m.a.riosv              1
         Németh, László         1
         Henning                1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 11(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      UI            - 2(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(+0)
      Linux         - 6(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 385(+2)
      Calc                     - 241(+0)
      Impress                  - 125(-2)
      LibreOffice              - 53(+1)
      Draw                     - 50(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 46(+2)
      Crashes                  - 42(-1)
      Base                     - 39(+0)
      UI                       - 37(+0)
      Borders                  - 34(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 27(+1)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 20(+0)
      filters and storage      - 20(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 17(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 11(+1)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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