ESC meeting minutes: 2025-07-10

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jul 10 14:25:38 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael W, Olivier, Regina, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 25.2.5 rc2 this week: to be tagged this evening
   + 25.8.0 rc2 in 2 weeks
     + then libreoffice-25-8-0 branch creation
   + 26.2
     + require VS2022 on master? (Miklos)
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/185538 for motivation
     + prefer to do this later in the summer (Cloph)
       + with the Windows build baseline update

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents
        + Updates and fixes (ohallot)
     + Guides
        + Addressing next guides

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         220(220) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     2(-3)    14(-2)     58(0)     273(-1)
          commented     4(-21)   95(-4)    264(0)     889(-9)
           resolved     0(-4)     6(-3)     30(-1)    144(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 33 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 29 changes in 1 month, and 385 changes in 1 year
           Lars Jødal made 19 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 13 changes in 1 month, and 47 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 13 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 10 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 9 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 6 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Adalbert Hanßen made 5 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Pierre made 5 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         220(220) (topicUI) bugs open, 12(12) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      5(-1)   10(3)      12(3)      16(3)
          commented     42(11)   82(19)    152(15)    936(-8)
            removed      0(-1)    1(0)       3(0)       7(0)
           resolved      1(-1)   10(0)      28(-1)    165(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           wodsfort made 41 changes in 1 month, and 45 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 27 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 26 changes in 1 month, and 286 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 17 changes in 1 month, and 427 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 35 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 177 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 10 changes in 1 month, and 35 changes in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 6 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
           Deepanshu Sharma made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
           Eltomito made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 167416] UI: language selection on the Tools -> AutoCorrect -> Autocorrect
            Options... "Localized Options" tab
     + [Bug 167404] Document comparison at unintuitive/insufficiently-discoverable
            place in menus
     + [Bug 167393] Add button "editing/correcting/viewing mode" to All apps
     + [Bug 167394] Create "file" page for replacement menu "file"
     + [Bug 167391] Change background colour of selected cells and for background
            of selected cells number

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 135(-46) import failure, 27(-2) export failures
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 4 coverity issues
     + 4 ossfuzz issues, all timeouts

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 25.2.1.2    27979(+170)
     + 25.2.2.2    47757(+472)
     + 25.2.3.2    21208(+325)
     + 25.2.4.3    29816(+9966)

* mentoring/easyhack update (Ilmari)
           committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      79(19)      128(17)     128(17)      128(17)
                reviews     368(14)     1114(12)    2600(-14)   11196(-12)
                 merged     245(-115)   1176(104)   3035(23)    12647(-82)
              abandoned      20(4)        62(14)     158(8)       664(-2)
            own commits     160(-76)     815(56)    2322(-15)    9756(-63)
         review commits      31(1)       156(1)      484(-2)     2654(-4)
         contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      43(4)       102(-32)    104(-30)     104(-30)
                reviews     834(-112)   3096(226)   7430(54)    31646(-112)
                 merged      11(0)        65(-21)    339(-22)    2407(22)
              abandoned      36(30)      555(32)    1128(26)     1555(27)
            own commits      13(6)        52(-3)     169(4)      1112(3)
         review commits       0(0)         0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 345(345)
        total 412(412)   assigned 45(45)   open 328(328)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Bogdan B made 8 patches in 1 month, and 245 patches in 1 year
           Simon Chenery made 8 patches in 1 month, and 64 patches in 1 year
           Kurt Nordback made 4 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Sam James made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Ujjawal Kumar made 3 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 2 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Pierre made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Oscar Megía made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Darshan Upadhyay made 1 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Xisco Fauli made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 796 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 1152 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 758 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 1168 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 518 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 548 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 924 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 294 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 716 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 792 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         WIP: tdf#51779 - Support for SQL datatype INTERVAL ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165012
         tdf#152943: Add NaN payload check at startup ( Xuan Chen )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/165391
         vcl: make ImplGetTextStyle() easier to read ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179146
         tdf#97102 Implement ProgressBar class for dp_gui_dialog2 refactoring ( Manish Bera )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/182058
         chart2: add calculated-y role to use for HistogramChart ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/182101
         tdf#165803 enable per module color customization (part 1) ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183186
         tdf#150819 sw: add unit test "testTdf150819" ( Karthik Godha )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183555
         tdf#99296 - Disable header/footer by default ( Devashish gupta )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183644
         tdf#89387: Improve performance of ScInterpreter::CalculateSlopeIntercept ( Devashish gupta )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183735
         [API CHANGE]tdf#49602 : Remove deprecated OSL Profile functionality ( Devashish gupta )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183755
         tdf#68675 ODBC: support arbitrarily-sized bookmarks ( Ujjawal Kumar )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183763
         [wip] hackweek 2025 (printfdebugging's project) ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183772
         [GSoC Proposal] Create Markdown Filter ( Shi Qiu )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183848
         tested an oOo extension, couldn't get it to build ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183945
         tdf#48140 Remove uno calls from xlsx import ( Manish Mahapatra )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184056
         tdf#93488 Add password protection for VBA export ( Ujjawal Kumar )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184086
         tdf#71414: Replace sal_uLong with std::size_t in chart2 source files ( Baludu Vamsi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184092
         tdf#75280: Replaced deprecated integer types with standard types in header files ( Baludu Vamsi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184093
         tdf#71414: Fix ambiguity in OutHex function call in rtfutil.cxx ( Baludu Vamsi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184095
         Replace sal_uLong with std::size_t (tdf#71414) ( Baludu Vamsi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184096
         tdf#137316: Fix middle-click paste by passing correct Window pointer ( Baludu Vamsi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184099
         tdf#67664: Query wizard in need of love ( Devashish gupta )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184121
         vcl: remove unnecessary using namespace ::com::sun::star ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184124
         tdf#92755 Avoid temporary XML files in winreg configmgr backend ( Mohamed Zaghloul )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184174
         Fix for Bug 103035: Improved Header/Footer dialog UI for text formatting ( Baludu Vamsi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184177
         tdf#145614 Convert #define to enums ( Jorge Vazquez )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184249
         related tdf#166201 docx import: ST_TextPoint as UniversalMeasure ( Justin Luth )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184295
         solenv: sort excludelist ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184345
         Markdown Support: Cmark Library Integration ( Mohamed Zaghloul )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184355
         tdf#166223 Fix new row/column borders on 1x1 Table ( Karthik Godha )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184367
         tdf#164970 change MiscSettings function names to match the functionality ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184419
         new loplugin comparefloattoint ( Noel Grandin )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184435
         tdf#97362 CalcRTL test partially migrated from Java to Python ( Jesus Solis )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184528
         tdf#151245: make video loop defined in anim nodes save/load to ODP ( Sarper Akdemir )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184563
         tdf#158127 Add dash selection to alphabetical index ( Benjamin Johll )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184657
         tdf#166284 Avoid un-neccessary busy timer in IdleHandler ( Samuel Adesola )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184729
         cool#4250 LOK calc export: don't export internal zoom values ( Justin Luth )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184795
         tdf#166391 - Copy screenshot to clipboard ( Olivier Hallot )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184907
         tdf#160032 Writer: Ability to update external links without user consent ( Shi Qiu )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/184973

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + 14 July: midterm evaluations for standard length projects
     + 5 projects affected
     + 2 more runs further

* Commit Access
   + Shardul Vikram Singh (Thorsten/Ilmari)
     + GSoC work would benefit from a feature branch (Replacing slideshow metafile rendering with primitives)
     + initially for the feature branch only, in practice
     + special group is enough, no need for a full committer role
     => approved (all)
     AI: grant the permission (Cloph)

* Developer Certification (Stephan/László)
   + resting since: 9 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 151 ok: 144 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.65% mean_ok:   7 ( 14) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 150 ok: 143 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.33% mean_ok:   8 ( 15) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 152 ok: 144 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.29% mean_ok:   7 ( 14) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 152 ok: 142 ko:   7 fail ratio: 4.61% mean_ok:   7 ( 14) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 312 ok: 220 ko:  80 fail ratio: 25.64% mean_ok:  39 ( 43) median_ok:  38 ( 41)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 365 ok: 297 ko:  48 fail ratio: 13.15% mean_ok:  20 ( 24) median_ok:  19 ( 19)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 300 ok: 267 ko:  14 fail ratio: 4.67% mean_ok:  54 ( 55) median_ok:  48 ( 49)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 336 ok: 259 ko:  68 fail ratio: 20.24% mean_ok:  40 ( 43) median_ok:  37 ( 38)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 407 ok: 198 ko: 171 fail ratio: 42.01% mean_ok:  73 ( 73) median_ok:  70 ( 70)
gerrit_master              jobs:  51 ok:  26 ko:  20 fail ratio: 39.22% mean_ok:  57 ( 57) median_ok:  59 ( 59)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 354 ok: 173 ko: 148 fail ratio: 41.81% mean_ok:  75 ( 75) median_ok:  72 ( 72)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sw_uibase_shells                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 JunitTest_sfx2_complex                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
       6 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 UITest_autofilter2                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 CppunitTest_sw_filter_md                gerrit_windows
   + nothing special with the failure rate (Cloph)
     + one Linux builder has problem, cloud provider issue, it fails a couple of builds
     + the bot is now offline
   + the throughput is now a bit smaller than usual

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + Orca gained support for structural navigation in non-web apps:
       https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/orca/-/commit/1a10f8c5c738d0cedb2c82a85f14724d23af6f99
       + looking into what's needed to support that for LO
         + fixed a related KWin bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506715
         + looking into implementing AT-SPI Collection support in Qt
           (and possibly GTK 4)
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#70102: Flipped RTL icons don't always look suitable
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70102
       + Migrated existing localized icons for use as writing direction variants
     + tdf#64991: Opening a long RTL DOC file is extremely slow
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64991
       + Bug affects all non-Latin; ~94% performance improvement
   + new way for tabbed dialogs crashes previous configuration (Heiko)
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/187307 (icons with gtk)
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/187565 (VT/HT option)
     + expected for now: e.g. hyperlink dialog to crash if the new option is off (not default)
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167451
     + ongoing on master

* Bump Linux baseline for master to AlmaLinux 9? (Michael W)
     + released in May 2022
     + AI: ping Rene re Debian (Michael W)
       + didn't get to this yet

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1771 (+25)
         + enhancements: 484  (+4)
         + needsUXEval: 9 (+3)
         + haveBackTrace: 15 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  2 (-1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  6 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Fixed:
         + LibreOffice 25.2.4 Writer cannot open PDFs on macOS
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167080
             + fixed, thanks to Cloph


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Dialog for the inserting/opening of images/pdfs with multiple pages
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114234
             + convert to easyhack ?

         + installation crashing when using georgian text
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166813
             + Fixed. Thanks to Cloph

* QA stats
     + propose is to drop the "bibisected" keyword from Bugzilla + ESC minutes (Mike)
       + see https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2025-July/093479.html
       + Áron's proposal: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2025-July/093516.html "use bibisected for the complete and partlyBibisected for the incomplete case"
       + made sense in the past (Xisco)
         + bibisect: not a specific commit, just a range
         + bisect: specific commit
         + "range" commits are quite rare by now
         + same at the end usually: both bibisect and bisect for most bugs
         + can look at the bibisect removal (Xisco)
           + AI: do this (Xisco)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +96  +46 (-54) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                6
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Xisco Faulí             4
        m_a_riosv               3
        Alec K                  2
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Dieter                  2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Justin L                2
        Michael Weghorn         2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Telesto                 4
        wodsfort                4
        Ken Scott               3
        nobu                    3
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 2
        Mike Kaganski           2
        anixxsus                2
        Elmar                   1
        Eltomito                1
        Eyal Rozenberg          1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      3
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Weghorn, Michael        2
                                1
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
        Alexandru Babacea       1
        Andreas Heinisch        1
        Eyal Rozenberg          1
        Grandin, Noel           1
        Henschel, Regina        1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               14
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    6
        Pierre                  3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        nobu                    3
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Jessica                 2
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        Nabet, Julien           2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         4
         Xisco Fauli            4
         Telesto                1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         4
         Xisco Fauli            4
         Telesto                1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1264(+7) bugs open of 14167(+9) total 21(+1) high prio.

      done by:
         nobu                   2
         Telesto                2
         Kaganski, Mike         1
         Robert Großkopf        1
         Vernon, Stuart Foote   1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 3(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)
      filters and storage - 1(+1)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(+0)
      Linux         - 5(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 0(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 421(+4)
      Calc                     - 253(+4)
      Impress                  - 128(-1)
      LibreOffice              - 57(+1)
      Draw                     - 48(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 44(+0)
      Crashes                  - 43(+1)
      UI                       - 38(+0)
      Borders                  - 36(+1)
      Base                     - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      filters and storage      - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 26(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 23(+0)
      RTL                      - 22(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 15(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 9(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 1(+0)


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