[Mesa-dev] [RFCv0 0/8] gallium: add support for NIR as alternate IR

Marek Olšák maraeo at gmail.com
Tue Oct 20 08:21:12 PDT 2015

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Marek Olšák <maraeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Rob Clark <robdclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Marek Olšák <maraeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Rob Clark <robdclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Marek Olšák <maraeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, drivers need to "dup" tokens if they want to keep them. Their
>>>>>> lifetime is the create function and that's it. st/mesa only keeps the
>>>>>> tokens for vertex shaders, because it needs for emulating some
>>>>>> features with the Draw module.
>>>>> It is something that I think would be worth revisiting, since the
>>>>> common case is that drivers have to dup the tokens to do their own
>>>>> variant mgmt.. so that seems like the better case to optimize for.  I
>>>>> think the only one that isn't doing it's own variant mgmt is nouveau,
>>>>> but Ilia mentioned at some point that there where some edge cases
>>>>> where they really do need a variant.
>>>> This would add more cruft into state trackers and modules. Doing "dup"
>>>> in the driver is the easiest way to handle this.
>>>> Also, drivers should be able to release any incoming IR if they don't
>>>> need it. Including NIR. Having a requirement that some IR must be in
>>>> memory for the lifetime of shaders is just overall a bad idea.
>>> If you need to create variants, you need to hang on to the IR until
>>> all possible variants are created (ie. forever)
>> Not true. You can convert to another IR, run lowering passes, and keep
>> the result of that.
> On nvc0, I'm just patching up the binary code directly. I may or may
> not be able to get away with doing that on nv50... my latest thinking
> is that I can, but haven't implemented yet. Which will mean no
> variants for nouveau *and* fully working logic for flat shading :)

Yes, patching shader bytecode is the best way to deal with variants.
I'd strongly recommend all drivers to do that, but it's not easy if
the modifications are non-trivial.


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