[Mesa-dev] [PATCH 1/2] glsl: add driconf to zero-init unintialized vars

Eirik Byrkjeflot Anonsen eirik at eirikba.org
Wed Jun 29 04:43:50 UTC 2016


Rob Clark <robdclark at gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Marek Olšák <maraeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Rob Clark <robdclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Kenneth Graunke <kenneth at whitecape.org> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, June 27, 2016 11:43:28 AM PDT Matt Turner wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:44 AM, Rob Clark <robdclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Alan Swanson <reiver at improbability.net> wrote:
>>>>> >> On 2016-06-25 13:37, Rob Clark wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Some games are sloppy.. perhaps because it is defined behavior for DX or
>>>>> >>> perhaps because nv blob driver defaults things to zero.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> So add driconf param to force uninitialized variables to default to zero.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> This issue was observed with rust, from steam store.  But has surfaced
>>>>> >>> elsewhere in the past.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Signed-off-by: Rob Clark <robclark at freedesktop.org>
>>>>> >>> ---
>>>>> >>> Note that I left out the drirc bit, since not entirely sure how to
>>>>> >>> identify this game.  (I don't actually have the game, just working off
>>>>> >>> of an apitrace)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Possibly worth mentioning that for the shaders using uninitialized vars
>>>>> >>> having zero-initializers lets constant-propagation get rid of a whole
>>>>> >>> lot of instructions.  One shader I saw dropped to less than half of
>>>>> >>> it's original instruction count.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If the default for uninitialised variables is undefined, then with the
>>>>> >> reported shader optimisations why bother with the (DRI) option when
>>>>> >> zeroing could still essentially be classed as undefined?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cuts the patch down to just the src/compiler/glsl/ast_to_hir.cpp change.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I did suggest that on #dri-devel, but Jason had a theoretical example
>>>>> > where it would hurt.. iirc something like:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >   float maybe_undef;
>>>>> >   for (int i = 0; i < some_uniform_at_least_one; i++)
>>>>> >      maybe_undef = ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > also, he didn't want to hide shader bugs that app should fix.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It would be interesting to rush shaderdb w/ glsl_zero_init=true and
>>>>> > see what happens, but I didn't get around to that yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I get on i965. It's not a clear win.
>>>>>
>>>>> total instructions in shared programs: 5249030 -> 5249002 (-0.00%)
>>>>> instructions in affected programs: 28936 -> 28908 (-0.10%)
>>>>> helped: 66
>>>>> HURT: 132
>>>>>
>>>>> total cycles in shared programs: 57966694 -> 57956306 (-0.02%)
>>>>> cycles in affected programs: 1136118 -> 1125730 (-0.91%)
>>>>> helped: 78
>>>>> HURT: 106
>>>>
>>>> I suspect most of the help is because we're missing undef optimizations,
>>>> such as CSE...while zero could be CSE'd.  (I have a patch, but it hurts
>>>> things too...)
>>>
>>> right, I was thinking that treating undef as zero in constant-folding
>>> would have the same effect.. ofc it might make shader bugs less
>>> obvious.
>>>
>>> Btw, does anyone know what fglrx does?  Afaiu nv blob treats undef as
>>> zero.  If fglrx does the same, I suppose that strengthens the argument
>>> for "just do this unconditionally".
>>
>> No idea what fglrx does, but LLVM does eliminate code with undefined
>> inputs. Initializing everything to 0 might make that worse.
>
> hmm, treating as zero does eliminate a lot.. anyway, I guess we'll
> stick w/ driconf.
>
> fwiw, with some help from the reporter, we figured out that this is
> the bit that I need to squash into drirc:
>
>     <application name="Rust" executable="rust">
>             <option name="glsl_zero_init value="true"/>
>     </application>

Not knowing a lot about drirc, I suspect you should have a double quote
at the end of glsl_zero_init as well?

eirik

> now, if I could talk somebody into a r-b for this and the i965 fix? ;-)
>
> BR,
> -R
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