[Mesa-dev] [PATCH] autotools: Deprecate the use of autotools

[Stuart Young]

Sorry. Copy-paste decided to send a msg rather than paste into it.

On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 17:36, Stuart Young <cefiar at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 04:18, Eero Tamminen <eero.t.tamminen at intel.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 20.12.2018 4.40, Stuart Young wrote:
>> > Could this be reduced this from an error to a warning, with the
>> > command-line option suppressing the warning?
>> >
>> > Perhaps as well as producing the warning, the build could sleep for say
>> > 30 seconds after producing the warning message. This would be
>> noticeable
>> > if you're building it yourself (which would definitely get the message
>> > out there), but wouldn't stop automated build processes (as it's not
>> > stopping, just sleeping).
>> >
>> > At a later date (when meson has more exposure) then perhaps we could
>> > move from a warning to an error.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>>
>> So it would take 2 releases i.e. about 1/2 year?
>>
>
> Not necessarily. IMO if there's enough consensus between 19.0 and 19.1,
> then changing it to an error could happen then. I'm basing this on the fact
> that every .0 release specifically says something like this:
>

 Mesa 18.3.0 is a new development release. People who are concerned with
stability and reliability should stick with a previous release or wait for
Mesa 18.3.1.

Of course, this isn't my call. I'm just trying to suggest ways to break the
deadlock.

* In next release autotools build is going to warn that meson should be
>> used instead, as autotools support will be eventually removed.
>>
>> * Next release from that:
>>    - errors out if specific option isn't used for doing building with
>> autotools
>>    - tells that autotools support will be removed in following release
>>
>> * Release after that removes autotools support.
>>
>>
>> (I assume Emil would be the person supporting Autotools during this as
>> he had already volunteered for it.)
>>
>>
>> While I think above is closer to how other large projects do deprecation
>> in general (= have clear deprecation period/releases), build system
>> changes are probably more often done just with flag day (early in the
>> release cycle, as maintaining multiple build systems can be pretty large
>> pain).
>>
>
> Yes, but at the moment we have no consensus and a deadlock on the issue.
>

-- 
Stuart Young (aka Cefiar)
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