[Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal

Jason Ekstrand jason at jlekstrand.net
Thu May 7 14:05:23 UTC 2020

Looks shiny but....

We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with Khronos
trademark rules is using logos for things where implementations aren't
conformant.  Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land for a
while and everything has been mostly fine.  We've been very careful to
*not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs.
Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project that
contains implementations and that some of those implementations are
conformant.  That page full of logos makes me concerned that we're
going to risk getting into trouble.  Khronos marketing cares A LOT
about logos.


On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:33 AM Erik Faye-Lund
<erik.faye-lund at collabora.com> wrote:
> Hey Brian
> TLDR; are you OK with me moving forward with the rework of mesa3d.org?
> As you hopefully are aware of, I've been working on a new website for
> mesa3d.org, split into a "marketing"-frontpage and a documentation
> page.
> You can read more about the structure and details here if you haven't
> already:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4630
> That MR only deals with the marketing website, so I think it's time to
> talk more about the main website. What I currently have is located
> here:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/
> This builds on CI and currently gets served here:
> https://kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/
> Since last time I published any details about this, I've:
> 1. Switched the static-site-generator from Jekyll to Hugo. This lead to
> a build-time decrease from about two minutes to about 200ms on my
> machine. This makes iteration times a lot more bearable.
> 2. Back-paddled on moving some pages. I think we can hold off on moving
> pages to the website until the initial work lands.
> 3. Gotten approval from the Khronos marketing team about the usage of
> their logos / trademarks. They had some minor requests for changes,
> which has been taken into account.
> The news articles and redirects for URL compatibility is converted from
> a branch in my Mesa fork, here:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/mesa/-/tree/docs-convert-news-hugo
> So, after a long introduction (sorry if a lot of this is stuff you
> already know), what I really want is for you Brian, as the project
> originator and listed webmaster, to say how you feel about all of this.
> If you're happy to move forward with this, I will start the technical
> discussions with the FDO admins and other people who might need to be
> involved in setting this up for production.
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