[Openicc] Google Summer of Code 2009: Oyranos CUPS backend
Leonard Rosenthol
leonardr at pdfsages.com
Mon May 17 07:27:07 PDT 2010
We are expecting that the profile will be embedded in the PPD, since it
needs to be "stand-alone".
And there would also be a key for the RI...
Leonard
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b at gmx.de> wrote:
> The "colourKeyWords" marker in PPD would be a realtively cheap way for
> matching a print configuration to a ICC profile.
>
> Where would you like to see the rendering intent information apparing?
> PPD?
>
>
> kind regards
> Kai-Uwe Behrmann
> --
> developing for colour management www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org
>
>
> Am 17.05.10, 08:48 -0400 schrieb Leonard Rosenthol:
>
> One thing we are working on at Adobe, that fits into this work, is a
>> standard way to have printer manufacturers provide an actual ICC profile
>> for
>> their device that can be used as a real world "Output Intent". Without
>> such a profile, and with the increase usage around host-based CM, we are
>> finding too many color shifting issues on various devices that expect
>> colors
>> to be "left alone". In addition, we believe that information about
>> rendering intent preference are also useful.
>>
>> So before you go hacking around the PPD format, you probably want to
>> involve
>> the various printer manufacturers and folks such as us, who are producing
>> the PPDs that are distributed with the various OS platforms and devices,
>> and
>> whose applications also need to work with them.
>>
>> Leonard Rosenthol
>> Adobe Systems
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b at gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>> the CUPS backend needs to tell Oyranos, which PPD colour related entries
>>> a
>>> PPD has. These entries are used to select a meaningful user configured
>>> ICC
>>> profile.
>>>
>>> Could you imagine a PPD entry, which solely lists all colour related
>>> entries? Something like:
>>> *colourKeyWords:
>>>
>>> "ColorModel;StpColorPrecision;MediaType;StpQuality;Resolution;StpInkSet;StpInkType;StpBrightness;StpFineBrightness;StpContrast;StpFineContrast;StpSaturation;StpFineSaturationStpImageType"
>>> Note this example is incomplete.
>>>
>>> A disadvantage might by that it has to be included into every PPD. For a
>>> driver with a large number of supperted printers and hence many PPDs like
>>> the Gutenprint one, it would mean to repeat that stuff. The advantage is
>>> a
>>> included PPD entry would be very simple to parse along the CUPS delivered
>>> PPD.
>>>
>>> Would this path be acceptable for foomatic, Gutenprint and hplib and
>>> other
>>> vendors?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> kind regards
>>> Kai-Uwe Behrmann
>>> --
>>> developing for colour management www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 19.08.09, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Kai-Uwe Behrmann:
>>>
>>> Am 19.08.09, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Till Kamppeter:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What I do not know is, how to distinct the colour related PPD options
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the non relevant to make selection dependent on say "gamma" but not on
>>>>>> "paper size". Would you know a way how to select ppd_attr_t attributes
>>>>>> according to their influence on colour?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Principally one cannot read from a PPD option whether it influences
>>>>> color
>>>>> or
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> This will it make harder to get PPD to ICC profile mapping outside of
>>>> the
>>>> CUPS cupsICCProfile scheme. The need of root access to do proper colour
>>>> management is yet clearly a limit.
>>>>
>>>> On the other side Oyranos needs to know if a PPD option or attribute is
>>>> relevant for colour or not to do CM configuration outside of the
>>>> cupsICCProfile scheme.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. a user printing to remote printer or on a system without root
>>>> rights
>>>> she can not locally assign a ICC profile to a given PPD in the Oyranos
>>>> DB and keep flexibility without complicated tweaking. But exactly that
>>>> was
>>>> the goal we where aiming at in this years GSoC projects.
>>>>
>>>> ICC profiles can be associated to choices of up to three options, by
>>>>
>>>>> default
>>>>> to ColorModel, MediaType, and Resolution:
>>>>>
>>>>> *cupsICCProfile ColorModel.MediaType.Resolution/Description: "filename"
>>>>> *cupsICCProfile RGB.GlossyPhoto.1200dpi/High-Quality Photo on Glossy
>>>>> Photo
>>>>> Paper: "Acme-PhotoStar-RGB-GlossyPhoto-1200.icc"
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of MediaType and Resolution two other options can be used with
>>>>> definitions like:
>>>>>
>>>>> *cupsICCQualifier2: Quality
>>>>> *cupsICCQualifier3: ImageType
>>>>>
>>>>> See http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/spec-ppd.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes thats the next stage to support in order get the backend functional
>>>> with cupsICCProfile.
>>>>
>>>>
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