[Openicc] Print Color Pipeline

[edmund ronald]

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b at gmx.de> wrote:
> Am 25.01.11, 10:00 +1000 schrieb Jon Cruz:
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2011, at 3:39 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 24.01.11, 17:02 +0100 schrieb edmund ronald:
>>>>
>>>> You know, maybe the gimp-usability guys have some suggestions here?
>>>> I think they're one of the most affected apps for profiled printing.
>>>> In fact, one of the big arguments for Linux would be to have a
>>>> seamless Gimp setup, equivalent to the seamless Photoshop setup you
>>>> get with the Mac.
>>>
>>> Agreed. Peter Sikking has already prepared ideas for a UI. As it stands
>>> now, IMO the common print dialog (CPD) would be the single best controlable
>>> entry point for colour management settings.
>>> Do plan Krita and Scribus to use that dialog for local printing?
>>
>>
>> I do think this should be taken grain of salt. I'm not sure of the status
>> in recent months, but when I've discussed things with Peter, he seemed to
>> not quite grasp some of the subtle needs of professional printing. Things
>> like artists being able to control overprint, knockout, rich black, etc.
>
> However, it will be much more difficult to get those features inside CUPS.
> CPD offers more control just by its place in the achitecture.

I believe these are separation issues?  Do they actually affect *local
printing* which is what CUPS is all about? I mean, if you want a
special type of inkjet rendering you invoke a profile, but then you
already need to know a lot about the printer you are using, and if you
want to print on press you spool the file out from the application, so
it doesn't go through CUPS anyway?

I have no experience with this - the only workflows I deal with are
local photo workflows which are RGB from the beginning to almost the
end (until final CMYK conversion for inkjet).

Edmund

>
>> The best thing would be to consider the use cases that showcase the
>> various issues and make sure he can get a good UI to cover all, not just the
>> average end consumer cases.
>
> Agreed.
> It would be great, if you experts could work on that.
>
> kind regards
> Kai-Uwe Behrmann
> --
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