[packagekit] Yum and locking

Tim Lauridsen tla at rasmil.dk
Fri Oct 19 00:08:04 PDT 2007

David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 07:51 +0200, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
>> Why not, the yum-updatesd is installed by default on all fedora
>> systems and yum has a plugin triggering yum-updatesd each time it is
>> run (by DBUS)
> I respectfully disagree. If PackageKit turns out to work well on Fedora,
> we simply avoid installing yum-updatesd (and other things like pirut and
> pup) on the Fedora Desktop spin / livecd [1].
> There's also the angle of duplication of functionality; speaking for the
> Fedora Desktop team I can say that avoiding apps with duplicate
> functionality is somewhat we try hard to do; e.g. you won't find two web
> browsers, two email clients etc. in the default install. Hence, there's
> no reason whatsoever to include two auto-updaters in the default
> install. It just doesn't make sense.
> It's all fine, and it's one of the reasons why spins are so useful in
> the context Fedora.
> Also, I for one, wouldn't mind saving 7.5MB writeable memory that
> yum-updatesd is now occupying not to mention the few seconds it delays
> my bootup.... [2]
>> Even if PK is doing some of the same things, then yum-updatesd is a
>> player we have to deal with.
> We have to deal with it in terms of co-existing and not causing data
> corruption etc. I'd just think of it as another user of yum; e.g. not
> much different from if I were to use yum from the command line (which I
> will continue to do even when I have PK goodness; my excuse is that I'm
> a developer!).
>        David
> [1] : of course, other Fedora spins can do what they want and it may
> even make sense of them to go with yum-updatesd...
> [2] : it used to be *much* worse but the mantra these days is that every
> bit and every second counts
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 I fully agree, what is was trying to say, was that yum-updatesd exist 
in F8, and we have to deal with it as just another yum user.

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