[packagekit] Res: PolicyKit, PackageKit or apt backend

Ken VanDine ken at vandine.org
Tue Aug 19 08:49:53 PDT 2008

I really don't think restarting dbus on a update is a good idea.
Restarts actually can break lots of apps and I have never found a good
use case to do it.  For example, if you move to gdm 2.22 or greater,
restarting dbus will kill the login session... which is not good :)


On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 07:20 -0700, dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br wrote:
> Huston we got a problem :P
> Well i really don't know if this was already discussed here
> but i just discovered that at least on Debian based systems
> we have a problem that might not be only packagekit related.
> one of the things about the last message is because the system
> update (or even a update package) causing the update of DBUS
> will cause the communication between ui and packagekit from
> happen and also consolekit got stoped...
> and if i manually start dbus i have to relogin to have a polkit
> session.
> So what should be done? the ui will be like that forever..
> and if dbus don't automatically starts all the other thing on
> the system will stop working (as now my battery monitor show n/a)
> this only happens on debian ? i mean only debian says to dbus
> to restart itself? or others distro also have this problem?
> comments please,
> Daniel
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: "dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br" <dantti85-pk at yahoo.com.br>
> Para: PackageKit users and developers list
> <packagekit at lists.freedesktop.org>
> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Agosto de 2008 17:46:47
> Assunto: [packagekit] PolicyKit, PackageKit or apt backend
> Hi,
> I'm not sure this is related with
> PolicyKit, PackageKit or apt backend.
> But I'm having troubles..
> well it happened when i installed
> a new version of packagekit and
> it also updated the apt backend.
> then cosolekit started to stop working
> i could only solve it purging and
> upgrating to unstable (but it wasn't
> updated before i update packagekit)
> the ck-list-sessions where working just for yesterday.
> Ok today i turn on my laptop and ck-list-sessions
> again stopped...hmmm
> i logout and login... and there it was working again
> (I think packagekit is killing somehow policykit,
> and the reason for me to believe is because there is a
> process running on the background to check for
> packages updates).
> So working fine.. i decided to test the system updates
> that i just implemented... :D 
> I click on refresh cache 
> just to have the lastest list...
> then upgrade..(system-update)
> well the first time it didn't worked (pretty sure is apt related
> because it already happened other times)
> then i clicked again it started to download..
> then installing.. and after a while it restarted my dbus an i 
> lost my conection... and the transaction stuck at 79 %
> i waited...
> not too long i did a ps aux...
> what a surprise? nor packagekit nor apt backend where running
> and ck-list-session also stoped working...
> so.. i really don't have any idea who's fault is..
> but if you have a way to help me debug this
> behavior i'll apreciate.
> Thanks,
> Daniel
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