[Piglit] Convert from python2 to python3
Ilia Mirkin
imirkin at alum.mit.edu
Tue Feb 25 12:56:40 PST 2014
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Dylan Baker <baker.dylan.c at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 02:01:56 PM Ken Phillis Jr wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Matt Turner <mattst88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ilia Mirkin <imirkin at alum.mit.edu>
> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Dylan Baker <baker.dylan.c at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> >>> This series makes the transition from python2 to python3. In general
>> >>
>> >> Out of curiousity, what's the motivation for this? I've been able to
>> >> avoid python3 quite nicely thus far, all it seems to do is break
>> >> compatibility with existing setups... Admittedly piglit is targeted at
>> >> developers, who probably have the latest and greatest stuff, so
>> >> perhaps not a huge issue.
>> >
>> > Python 2.7 support sucks. Piglit with concurrency was simply broken
>> > with Python 2.7.4 and 2.7.5 because of some regression related to
>> > threading. Then piglit was broken again after the timeouts code was
>> > committed in November, until it was reverted, as far as we can tell
>> > because of a Python bug. And Python 3.3 just has the necessary support
>> > for doing this without rolling it ourselves.
>> >
>> > Basically, we're tired of relying on old and dead versions of python
>> > which are ill maintained and break often.
>>
>> I agree with the forced update to Python 3, but I would suggest making
>> some tweaks to keep this working on a lot of the long-term desktop
>> environments because it is better to have a stable software base when
>> writing tests and improving the actual driver.
>>
>> Debian: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/python3 - The minimum
>> supported version of the releases is Python3 version 3.1.3
>> Ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python3 - Minimum Python3
>> version of 3.1.2 ( on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ), but the current long term
>> release ( 12.04 LTS ) features python 3.2.3.
>> Gentoo: This always tends to carry the latest python release so this
>> probably is not going to be an issue.
>> FreeBSD: FreeBSD 9 includes python version 3.2.3 ( or similar ) in a
>> package so this should work out well.
>> Red Hat based distributions: These appear to only have Python 2.7
>> based on the package searches I can find. I may be wrong, but it would
>> be a good idea to at least verify this.
>
> on python3<3.2: Python as a project doesn't support python older than 3.2, and
> 3.1 lacks features we're already using (ie: argparse). It would be a step
> backwards to go to python 3.1.
>
> on python 3<3.3: Python 3.2 has 99% feature parity with 2.7, so while it would
> be a step toward the future, many of the reasons for going to python3 are new
> features that will be useful or allow us to replace our own hand rolled code
> with code from the standard library. Thread timeouts is the most obvious
> example. If we need to postpone 3.3 support and move to 3.2 that is an option,
> although IMHO it would be better to just go all the way.
>
> on LTS/stable releases: Piglit is a testing framework for *upstream
> development* of graphics drivers. You need up-to-date libdrm, linux, llvm, etc
Not sure if it's used this way, but I could also imagine a distro
package maintainer wanting to validate a mesa release using piglit.
That package could be for an LTS/stable release. Although chances are
that said package maintainer would be clever enough to figure out how
to install python3.3 :)
> to even build mesa. I don't know of any developers trying to do upstream
> development on EL, Debian<testing (jessie has 3.3.4), or Ubuntu<latest (saucy
> has 3.3.x); though I might be wrong, and they can yell at me for making stupid
> assumptions!, because the point of LTS/Stable releases is that *nothing ever
> changes*. I think the right solution for LTS/stable releases is to just tag
> the last 2.6+argparse compatible release, and point people who don't have 3.3
> support to that tag.
>
> BSD: At the moment I don't know of anyone running piglit on *BSD, and I found
> python33 in my ports tree on my FreeBSD 9.x machine, so I'm not convinced it's
> a problem
>
> -Dylan
>
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